Big Red 40 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm interested to see if they can do with a player like Jalin Barnett. A four star,highly touted, O linemen out of high school currently buried on the depth chart because of weight and fitness problems? Quote Link to comment
LaunchCode Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Key factors to O-line success not mentioned already are cohesiveness, continuity, and confidence. Unlike this season the line will need to avoid injuries to sustain continuity. If that happens then the unit can start to build cohesion. When those two boxes are checked, success and confidence start to grow and becomes noticeable to the casual observer. The final stage is when a unit develops a pride in pushing the opponent around and doing it on every play up to, and just after the whistle because it's fun and they can. Toughness, attitude, high effort, and killer instinct are not given. Some players have those traits wired into their DNA some don't. Just like some athletes have elite speed and some don't, and no amount of coaching will change that fact. Edited December 6, 2017 by LaunchCode Quote Link to comment
shyndy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 This OL is a mess and likely have been doing S&C that will be different than what this staff wants (don’t know that for sure just remember the Kelly Oregon teams wanting smaller faster Tackles). If we can say that our OL was average at the end of next season Austin should receive coaching accolades. More likely another season of s#!tty OL Play. The good thing is I thinks we have some decent young players it’s just going to take time to develop them Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 If you guys want a little insight into what we can expect philosophically, check out Matt Hoskinson's interview on USC from Monday. He claims Scott's teams practice more of what he called a 'drive block' in the run game which is what Tenopir used to teach. Before we get all juiced up on koolaid, though, he did bring a lot of other things up like 'fit' and whether or not guys were playing at the right positions. A lot of elements determine the success of the o-line and I think that's going to be Frost's biggest focal point outside of QB play in 2018. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 12 hours ago, marko polo said: you all noticed I said stronger and quicker ( more athletic ) You said stronger and faster (you're wrong) Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 9 hours ago, Big Red 40 said: I'm interested to see if they can do with a player like Jalin Barnett. A four star,highly touted, O linemen out of high school currently buried on the depth chart because of weight and fitness problems? Barnett is going to have to reshape his body. He hasn't done it yet, so hopefully the new staff can get through to him. If not, he could be someone that could easily be gone before next fall. 1 Quote Link to comment
WyoHusker56 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, shyndy said: This OL is a mess and likely have been doing S&C that will be different than what this staff wants (don’t know that for sure just remember the Kelly Oregon teams wanting smaller faster Tackles). If we can say that our OL was average at the end of next season Austin should receive coaching accolades. More likely another season of s#!tty OL Play. The good thing is I thinks we have some decent young players it’s just going to take time to develop them I do remember Oregon having smaller faster tackles, but I think this staff offered a JUCO OT that is like 6-7, 300+ on their first night. That's a huge dude, so HCSF may have evolved the OL a bit since his Oregon days. Quote Link to comment
Jason Sitoke Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: You said stronger and faster (you're wrong) 1 Quote Link to comment
Chadhusker Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Their is lots of talent on the line. I think frost will do better with all of them then Riley and his staff . Quote Link to comment
Vince R. Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I am convinced that we haven't scratched the surface on the kind of talent we have not only on the Oline but the entire team. This was a colossal fail on the previous regime. You couldn't convince me that Gates, Farmer, Foster, Jalin, Rairdon, Wilson. etc are busts. Cav and crew just sucked. 6 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Chadhusker said: Their is lots of talent on the line. I think frost will do better with all of them then Riley and his staff . I have believed this for a long time. This talent isn't coming anywhere close to being utilized. Quote Link to comment
Chadhusker Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 44 minutes ago, Vince R. said: I am convinced that we haven't scratched the surface on the kind of talent we have not only on the Oline but the entire team. This was a colossal fail on the previous regime. You couldn't convince me that Gates, Farmer, Foster, Jalin, Rairdon, Wilson. etc are busts. Cav and crew just sucked. I second that. 1 Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Boe Wilson will start next year Quote Link to comment
shyndy Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Husker56 said: I do remember Oregon having smaller faster tackles, but I think this staff offered a JUCO OT that is like 6-7, 300+ on their first night. That's a huge dude, so HCSF may have evolved the OL a bit since his Oregon days. I think he had a 350 pounder at UCF also. So who knows maybe the turn around will be faster but I don’t expect anything 1 Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said: Boe Wilson will start next year I would tend to agree, he put a lot of really good tape when he finally got on the field that should stand out to the staff. Quote Link to comment
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