funhusker Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin 6 1 1 Link to comment
commando Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedDenver said: You might try reading that article as it's been updated because the paper it was based on has been withdrawn. From your link: Plus the author falsely claimed he was affiliated with Stanford and the research has been debunked: https://retractionwatch.com/2021/04/29/mask-study-was-misleading-and-misquotes-citations-says-elsevier/ And guess what? An article I linked earlier was specifically about how that paper was debunked: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/24/fact-check-study-falsely-claiming-masks-harmful-isnt-stanfords/7353629002/ haven't you heard? the MSM has an agenda and his sources do not. 2 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, commando said: haven't you heard? the MSM has an agenda and his sources do not. Yes, the Koch brothers are notoriously without agenda. 2 Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Bledred said: I am very aware that N95 masks are the ONLY mask that are able to block the size of the virus from entering the mask. 99.99% of the masks I see day in and day out in are NOT N95 masks. Dude I am about to blow your mind. Ready? Wearing non-n95 masks isn't about blocking the virus from entering, it's about slowing the virus leaving if you are sick. Can't take your argument seriously if you can't even understand that masks aren't for your own protection but for preventing you from getting other people sick. Anyways, sorry that Christians are having such a tough time in America. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I know I stole this from the other thread. But, I think we are seeing this play out in real life in this thread. 3 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, knapplc said: Yes, the Koch brothers are notoriously without agenda. Of course one of them has been dead for a few years...so... Link to comment
Bledred Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 20 hours ago, commando said: i am 59 now and still wearing mask with no problems. tell me when the long term effects will come into play. You said you wear a mask at work only while doing certain tasks at work. I fail to see how this is the same as wearing a mask all the time, all day in public, work, and even privately around friends and family. The time difference here is extremely different. How many children are also wearing the N95 masks at your job? Because we are also requiring children to wear masks long-term in public, in school, and everywhere else. Lets review your logic: I am a 59 year old who has worn an N95 mask at work for certain tasks and have been just fine for years. Therefore every single man, women, and child on planet earth regardless of age, gender, pregnancy, disability, ethnicity, or having any type of disease or comorbidity or pre-existing lung disability such as asthma etc. can also wear an N95 for long periods of time and also will not have any health issues as a result there of. 18 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I know I stole this from the other thread. But, I think we are seeing this play out in real life in this thread. This is not going to age well. Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Bledred said: You said you wear a mask at work only while doing certain tasks at work. I fail to see how this is the same as wearing a mask all the time, all day in public, work, and even privately around friends and family. The time difference here is extremely different. How many children are also wearing the N95 masks at your job? Because we are also requiring children to wear masks long-term in public, in school, and everywhere else. Lets review your logic: I am a 59 year old who has worn an N95 mask at work for certain tasks and have been just fine for years. Therefore every single man, women, and child on planet earth regardless of age, gender, pregnancy, disability, ethnicity, or having any type of disease or comorbidity or pre-existing lung disability such as asthma etc. can also wear an N95 for long periods of time and also will not have any health issues as a result there of. So you still have no legit examples of harm done by masks from any study not funded by the Koch organization. This is all your speculation based on biased sources. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Bledred said: You said you wear a mask at work only while doing certain tasks at work. I fail to see how this is the same as wearing a mask all the time, all day in public, work, and even privately around friends and family. The time difference here is extremely different. How many children are also wearing the N95 masks at your job? Because we are also requiring children to wear masks long-term in public, in school, and everywhere else. Lets review your logic: I am a 59 year old who has worn an N95 mask at work for certain tasks and have been just fine for years. Therefore every single man, women, and child on planet earth regardless of age, gender, pregnancy, disability, ethnicity, or having any type of disease or comorbidity or pre-existing lung disability such as asthma etc. can also wear an N95 for long periods of time and also will not have any health issues as a result there of. i said i've worn these masks a lot for a lot of years with no problem you said it was unhealthy for anyone to wear a mask that much. 1 Link to comment
Bledred Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Lorewarn said: Dude I am about to blow your mind. Ready? Wearing non-n95 masks isn't about blocking the virus from entering, it's about slowing the virus leaving if you are sick. Can't take your argument seriously if you can't even understand that masks aren't for your own protection but for preventing you from getting other people sick. Anyways, sorry that Christians are having such a tough time in America. How is it that you believe a virus can easily enter a mask but not easily exit a mask? Link to comment
Bledred Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 20 hours ago, RedDenver said: You might try reading that article as it's been updated because the paper it was based on has been withdrawn. From your link: Plus the author falsely claimed he was affiliated with Stanford and the research has been debunked: https://retractionwatch.com/2021/04/29/mask-study-was-misleading-and-misquotes-citations-says-elsevier/ And guess what? An article I linked earlier was specifically about how that paper was debunked: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/24/fact-check-study-falsely-claiming-masks-harmful-isnt-stanfords/7353629002/ You keep quoting USA TODAY as a source to debunk a medical journal. If you presented this to any higher educational system you would be laughed out of the room. Sorry, but journalists are not medical experts. Also 'Reaction Watch' is a blog....A BLOG. And I am the one pushing 'misleading info' and 'false information'? 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 17 hours ago, DevoHusker said: Of course one of them has been dead for a few years...so... Don’t get in the way of his narrative. He was on a roll:) 1 1 Link to comment
Bledred Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, commando said: i said i've worn these masks a lot for a lot of years with no problem you said it was unhealthy for anyone to wear a mask that much. The issue at hand is about masking the entire world, not certain people in certain jobs and only for certain times in those jobs. How do you know that you are not an exception to the rule? 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bledred said: You keep quoting USA TODAY as a source to debunk a medical journal. If you presented this to any higher educational system you would be laughed out of the room. Sorry, but journalists are not medical experts. Also 'Reaction Watch' is a blog....A BLOG. And I am the one pushing 'misleading info' and 'false information'? UMMMMMM..... Did you read the VERY FIRST paragraph of the AEIR article you linked? "The paper discussed below was withdrawn from the journal following an editorial investigation. RetractionWatch explains the reasons for this decision. The authors of this article defer to the editors of the journal. We leave the text intact for reference purposes only." Your own source debunks your source. 1 Link to comment
Bledred Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, knapplc said: So you still have no legit examples of harm done by masks from any study not funded by the Koch organization. This is all your speculation based on biased sources. Just because there are no long-term studies on the effects of masks worn by every age group, pregnant women, people with disabilities, people with lung problems, does not mean that there is also no long-term negative effects of forcing every man, women, and child on earth to wear masks for most of their daily lives for years on end. To think otherwise is illogical at best. 1 Link to comment
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