WyoHusker56 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Moiraine said: This is some flawed logic. Part of the reason it started being brought up is because the B1G made a trophy for it before we ever played them as a conference opponent. I agree my logic is flawed but I'm sticking with it 2 1 Quote Link to comment
nic Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Every time one of these threads get started I smile and shake my head. When this one started I honestly thought it was going nowhere because we just wound down on this same topic in another thread. Man was I wrong. This might be the record. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 12:05 PM, Landlord said: Then why is Oklahoma - Oklahoma State a legitimate rivalry? High school athletes know each other for 4 years and some go to OU and some go to little brother to continue said rivalry developed in HS Quote Link to comment
Apsu Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 1:05 PM, Landlord said: Then why is Oklahoma - Oklahoma State a legitimate rivalry? Because they are in the same state and the same conference? 2 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Why do people keep throwing out individual variables over and over? Lacking one variable doesn't make it not a rivalry. On the other hand, there are some big factors individually that can make something a rivalry, and being in the same state is one of them. A rivalry doesn't need to have every single variable all the time every year, but it needs a lot of them much of the time. It doesn't matter that Nebraska beat Oklahoma several years in a row or Oklahoma beat Nebraska several years in a row. It's a rivalry because it's been competitive a long time over many years and a lot of the games mattered. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State don't have every single variable, but they are in the same state. IMO being in the same state can trump a lot of the other factors. With Iowa we're lacking several variables, IMO. Time is a huge one, important games is another. Basically all we have geography. If in 2039 the overall record is fairly even, I will probably consider it a rivalry even if we haven't been playing for championships. Or if it's not even, but there have been some huge games, maybe a couple upsets stopping an 11-0 team from getting to the championship, then I'll probably consider that a rivalry too. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Moiraine said: Why do people keep throwing out individual variables over and over? Because people keep posting as if whichever individual variable in question is the variable that makes a rivalry (usually as an argument as to why nebraska doesn't have one). Quote Link to comment
dvdcrr Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 If Twinkies had a rival would it be Ho Ho's? 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 9:56 AM, Landlord said: Because people keep posting as if whichever individual variable in question is the variable that makes a rivalry (usually as an argument as to why nebraska doesn't have one). I haven't seen much of that. I've seen people list several reasons Iowa isn't a rival, then people pop in and list one variable a big rivalry doesn't have, when no one claimed that every single one was required. But we are missing some of the most important, imo, with Iowa. Quote Link to comment
desertshox Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, dvdcrr said: If Twinkies had a rival would it be Ho Ho's? No. They are both hostess products. Ho ho's natural rival would be little debbie swiss rolls. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Ulty Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, desertshox said: No. They are both hostess products. Ho ho's natural rival would be little debbie swiss rolls. The Little Debbie message board has a 200 page thread talking mad $h!t about Ho Ho's, but Hostess refuses to acknowledge that it is a true rivalry. 3 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 12:57 AM, Moiraine said: This is some flawed logic. Part of the reason it started being brought up is because the B1G made a trophy for it before we ever played them as a conference opponent. That was what....8 years ago? That isn't why people are talking about it in 2019. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: That was what....8 years ago? That isn't why people are talking about it in 2019. I think it is a big factor. We started asking the question because of the trophy (which shouldn’t have been made year 1) and never stopped. People thought Iowa fans were annoying then and that was about all we had for a rivalry + distance. Now we have more match ups/time so it’s getting closer but IIRC none or very few have been for a division title. The year Iowa was undefeated was probably the biggest deal. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Nebraska-Oklahoma doesn't make SI's list of "The Greatest Rivalries in College Football History." And, uhh... neither does Nebraska-Iowa. https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/best-rivalries-college-football-history Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I think of Iowa as a rival. I dislike the team, state, most of the people I meet from there, and the fact they have beaten us too often. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I'd almost like to see OU join the Big Ten and leave their annual Texas game behind, just to see threads from Texas fans asking "Is Texas Tech our rival?" 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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