The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

[knapplc]

Just now, Nebfanatic said:

30% error rate? Not saying I don't believe you just haven't seen that. Still think getting tests on the ground would have been far better than waiting weeks. We could have been testing this whole time and developing a better test at the same time to back it up

 

I googled it. Can't find a single source that confirms that number. 

 

The kits the CDC developed had flaws, but there's no percentage associated with the flaws in this article, nor are these tests from Europe.

[GSG]

 

[knapplc]

2 minutes ago, GSG said:

 

 

 

Dumb.  Apparently Gobert made a point of touching all the reporters' recorders and stuff, too. 

[QMany]

6 minutes ago, Redux said:

Should have 4million tests made in the coming days and double that heading into next week

 

"Anyone who wants a test can get a test.” President Trump, five days ago. 

 

14 minutes ago, Redux said:

Europe had a 30% error rate so the CDC said screw off and we are making our own.

Source? I can't find that anywhere but random individuals' tweets.

 

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But neither the CDC nor the coronavirus task force chaired by Vice President Mike Pence would say who made the decision to forgo the WHO test and instead begin a protracted process of producing an American test, one that got delayed by manufacturing problems, possible lab contamination and logistical delays.

 

“Please provide an explanation for why the Covid-19 diagnostic test approved by the World Health Organization was not used,” Sen. Patty Murray, the ranking Democrat on the Senate health committee, who represents the hard-hit state of Washington, asked in a 3½-page letter on the testing fiasco to Pence, Health Secretary Alex Azar, CDC director Robert Redfield, and Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn.

 

So far, none has been provided

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/coronavirus-testing-failure-123166

 

 

[GSG]

4 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

Dumb.  Apparently Gobert made a point of touching all the reporters' recorders and stuff, too. 

 

 

 

[Nebfanatic]

12 minutes ago, GSG said:

 

Gobert better be feeling like the worlds biggest a$$h@!e right now. Unacceptable behavior 

[Redux]

25 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

I googled it. Can't find a single source that confirms that number. 

 

The kits the CDC developed had flaws, but there's no percentage associated with the flaws in this article, nor are these tests from Europe.

 

I will try to find it for you, but I have the feeling that haf the CDC greenlit faulty  tests you'd stillmake that same post a few pages ago.

[teachercd]

4 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Gobert better be feeling like the worlds biggest a$$h@!e right now. Unacceptable behavior 

Agreed!

 

If you are sick or even appear to be sick...stay the f#&% away from others.

 

 

[QMany]

 

[TGHusker]

The cartoon fits wt the GOP denial noted below and their claim it is a hoax to hurt Trump. 

 

In other news, The Flat Earth Society noted they were making progress in recruiting GOP members to their cause......

 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sean-hannity-thinks-coronavirus-panic-120516477.html

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Sean Hannity used his syndicated talk-radio program Wednesday to share a prediction he had found on Twitter about what is really happening with the coronavirus: It’s a “fraud” by the deep state to spread panic in the populace, manipulate the economy and suppress dissent.

“May be true,” Hannity declared to millions of listeners around the country.

As the coronavirus spreads around the globe, denial and disinformation about the risks are proliferating on media outlets popular with conservatives.

“This coronavirus?” Rush Limbaugh asked skeptically during his Wednesday program. “All of this panic is just not warranted.”

The Fox Business anchor Trish Regan told viewers Monday that the worry over coronavirus “is yet another attempt to impeach the president.”

Where doctors and scientists see a public health crisis, President Donald Trump and his media allies see a political coup afoot.

Even on Wednesday night, after Trump gave an unusually somber address to the nation in which he announced he was suspending all travel from Europe for 30 days, Hannity criticized Democrats and vigorously defended the president’s response to the crisis, saying that when he instituted travel restrictions on China more than a month ago, “no president had ever acted that fast.”

Distorted realities and discarded facts are now such a part of everyday life that the way they shape events like impeachment, a mass shooting or a presidential address often goes unmentioned.

But when partisan news meets a pandemic, the information silos where people shelter themselves can become not just deluded but also dangerous, according to those who criticize conservative commentators for shedding any semblance of objectivity when it comes to covering the president.

“This sort of media spin poses a clear and present danger to public health,” said Charlie Sykes, a longtime conservative host and author who published a book, “How the Right Lost Its Mind,” in 2018. “If you have people out there who feel all of this is overblown, and feel the need to act out their lack of concern by not taking precautions, it could be exceptionally dangerous.

“That’s not just a problem for the right wing, that becomes a real threat to the general population,” added Sykes, who is also a contributor to MSNBC. “When people start dying, the entertainment value wears off.”

In the case of Fox News viewers and talk radio listeners, who tend to be older than the general population, the danger of playing down the threat is potentially far worse. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has specifically identified older people as being at higher risk from serious complications if they contract the virus. Nielsen, the TV ratings agency, lists the average age of a Fox News viewer as 65 years old.

 

 

[knapplc]

1 minute ago, TGHusker said:

The cartoon fits wt the GOP denial noted below and their claim it is a hoax to hurt Trump. 

 

In other news, The Flat Earth Society noted they were making progress in recruiting GOP members to their cause......

 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sean-hannity-thinks-coronavirus-panic-120516477.html

 

 

 

Reading stuff like that, it really gives you an idea where some of the folks responding to this thread are getting their ideas.

[QMany]

 

[RedDenver]

12 hours ago, Moiraine said:

Think you're overestimating their ability to wake up. If 25% of the population died I guarantee there'd still be a lot who would say there was nothing Trump could've done about it and then they'd vote for him in November.

 

12 hours ago, knapplc said:

I'll be cynical about these idiots later.

 

But for now, I hope.

My mom is a die-hard Republican and Trump supporter who would blindly believed what Trump said. But she's a nurse and has gotten angry with the misinformation put out by the Trump admin, and Trump in particular. I told her to think about what else they've lied to her about, and I have some glimmer of hope she might do just that.

[Redux]

Ok researched it back, it is a bit misreported. So you can't really get a margin of error until you have final results which this is fluid so it will be some time to clarify that. That said the test kits had a 70% sensitivity rate so that leads to a conclusion that up to 30% could be positive and show negative.

[knapplc]

4 minutes ago, Redux said:

Ok researched it back, it is a bit misreported. So you can't really get a margin of error until you have final results which this is fluid so it will be some time to clarify that. That said the test kits had a 70% sensitivity rate so that leads to a conclusion that up to 30% could be positive and show negative.

 

You said American testing was delayed because they were using flawed tests from Europe, which is why the CDC decided to make their own tests. 

 

This is not the case, correct?

 

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Europe had a 30% error rate so the CDC said screw off and we are making our own. Should have 4million tests made in the coming days and double that heading into next week