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On 3/30/2022 at 8:14 PM, DevoHusker said:

I am in the same boat. My wife tested positive around Christmas 2021.

We have been exposed a ton through teenagers visiting the house that tested positive. We never really took many precautions after the first couple months. With the exception of one son, whose friends were all positive, no one in the family ever felt sick or tested positive. Not sure why. We are religious vitamin D takers. Maybe that's it...or just lucky.

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Omicron BA2 in 3 out of 4, but no surge because we failed to mitigate Omicron. 
Interesting take, natural immunity worked?
 

“If BA.2 does go quietly, it may be because the US did such a poor job of stopping transmission of Omicron and the variants that came before it, that we have failed upward, bungling our way to a high level of immune protection.”

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/06/health/where-is-ba-2/index.html

 

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41 minutes ago, nic said:

Omicron BA2 in 3 out of 4, but no surge because we failed to mitigate Omicron. 
Interesting take, natural immunity worked?
 

“If BA.2 does go quietly, it may be because the US did such a poor job of stopping transmission of Omicron and the variants that came before it, that we have failed upward, bungling our way to a high level of immune protection.”

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/06/health/where-is-ba-2/index.html

 

I've read that an estimated 260 million people were infected with BA.1 between December and February.  There have been upwards of 120-130,000 deaths associated with this same variant.  Which would make the infection-mortality around 0.05%, which would actually make it theoretically less deadly than the influenza season of 2018-2019.  Not truly fair to compare the 2 since we don't see 260 million people come down with the flu inside of 2 months, but it is an encouraging data point as we look toward 'living with COVID'.

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11 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said:

I've read that an estimated 260 million people were infected with BA.1 between December and February.  There have been upwards of 120-130,000 deaths associated with this same variant.  Which would make the infection-mortality around 0.05%, which would actually make it theoretically less deadly than the influenza season of 2018-2019.  Not truly fair to compare the 2 since we don't see 260 million people come down with the flu inside of 2 months, but it is an encouraging data point as we look toward 'living with COVID'.

 

That would seem about right per the NYT charts. 

 

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So it's possible we've achieved herd immunity. But at the horrifying cost of nearly 1 million US deaths. The mind is boggled that this is a price people were willing to pay. 

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A COVID lockdown study noted on Conservative sites because the red states faired better. I am trying to find the study from the National Bureau of Economic Research.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-new-york-covid-lockdowns-worst-florida-best-study

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/states-of-covid-performance-economic-schools-study-working-paper-lockdowns-11649621806

 

"The study verifies other studies which have found that locking down businesses, stores, churches, schools, and restaurants had almost no impact on health outcomes across states," the report determined. "States with strict lockdowns had virtually no better performance in COVID death rates than states that remained mostly open for business."

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On 4/2/2022 at 5:09 PM, nic said:

So why is much of Europe spiking from Omicron BA2, and we are not? Seems like it would have been here by now.

 

It is. The Northeast is currently getting hammered. 

 

Also, 800 deaths a day is hardly flu-like. We'd have to get down to 160 COVID deaths a day to equal the worst flu-season in recent memory. 

 

Everyone is going to end up being right. COVID is considerably deadlier than the flu, but we're gonna have to live with it. Mandates and shutdowns, no, common sense and decency, yes. 

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33 minutes ago, nic said:

A COVID lockdown study noted on Conservative sites because the red states faired better. I am trying to find the study from the National Bureau of Economic Research.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-new-york-covid-lockdowns-worst-florida-best-study

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/states-of-covid-performance-economic-schools-study-working-paper-lockdowns-11649621806

 

"The study verifies other studies which have found that locking down businesses, stores, churches, schools, and restaurants had almost no impact on health outcomes across states," the report determined. "States with strict lockdowns had virtually no better performance in COVID death rates than states that remained mostly open for business."

 

 

Nothing like a heavily right-biased source to tell us that right-wingers really nailed Covid while those wacky libs failed utterly.  :rolleyes:

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