Trump's Post Election Fallout: Legal & Obstruction actions

[BigRedBuster]

11 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

More on this. Here is the back story on the guy who made the video.  Qanon believer, Falun Gong believer,  - believe that Trump will take down the Chinese communists.

He's associated wt the Epoch Times - a alt right loony tune publication. 

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-newest-trump-boosted-viral-maga-star-has-ties-to-the-epoch-times?ref=scroll

 

 

It is very concerning when people like this have the ability to put out such well produced propaganda. 

[Guy Chamberlin]

20 hours ago, TGHusker said:

 

 

 

I go back and forth on this. I can easily see voters getting excited to vote against Trump and for a somewhat moderate Biden - esp after we see Trump's poor response to Covid.   For me it is easier to understand the Biden getting 81 million votes or 15 million more than Hillary did in 2016  (66m approx).  Hillary was a terrible candidate.  Biden was also running against an unpopular president.  He is a known commodity.  

 

I do have a hard time understanding how Trump got 11 million votes over what he got in 2016 - roughly 74 million vs 63 million.  In 2016 the GOP was more energized against 'the devil incarnate' - the long term view of Hillary.  How does Trump get 11 million more in the midst of a free falling economy, his massive failure in leading against Covid (the vaccines - operation warp speed as an exception), his now known ineptitude, and his impeachment. Yet he still ends up wt 11 million more  votes than 2016.  Where were those voters in 2016 when in 2020 there was a better alternative and he (Trump) had a poor record.     So, I can understand Knapp's statement - could the fraud be on the trump end?  Did the Trump team not figure the massive Biden turnout in their scheme?

 

When the polls didn't quite align in 2016, and again in 2020, they did the forensics and concluded that a lot of people didn't want to admit to supporting Trump, but voted for him given the anonymity of the voting booth.  

 

While the likability of Biden vs. Hillary no doubt came into play, every Democrat was slated to be an abortion-loving socialist, and for millions of Americans that was enough to vote for anyone in the opposing party. 

 

But millions of Americans genuinely embraced Donald Trump. That he was a race-baiting xenophobe, bully, and red meat populist is exactly what they liked about him.

 

 If you play the fraud card, you risk misunderstanding the electorate yet again. 

[TGHusker]

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

It is very concerning when people like this have the ability to put out such well produced propaganda. 

Yes,    Joseph Goebbels  would be very proud.     But you are right it is easy to deceive.    Of course Trump likes the low educated voter.

[TGHusker]

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

When the polls didn't quite align in 2016, and again in 2020, they did the forensics and concluded that a lot of people didn't want to admit to supporting Trump, but voted for him given the anonymity of the voting booth.  

 

While the likability of Biden vs. Hillary no doubt came into play, every Democrat was slated to be an abortion-loving socialist, and for millions of Americans that was enough to vote for anyone in the opposing party. 

 

But millions of Americans genuinely embraced Donald Trump. That he was a race-baiting xenophobe, bully, and red meat populist is exactly what they liked about him.

 

 If you play the fraud card, you risk misunderstanding the electorate yet again. 

Understood.  It is genuinely hard to believe there is such a huge divide in this country and that so many swallow the trump kool-aide without any thought.  Yes, many perhaps vote for him while hold their nose because of a specific policy position, but I think the vast majority do so out of what you said above - paint the Dems as devilish and paint Trump as the savior and too many believe it.   The GOP has become Trump. 

[TGHusker]

Rudy's "star" witness in Michigan hit with a cease-and-desist letter. 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rudy-giulianis-star-michigan-witness-063537077.html

 

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  • Melissa Carone, who gained notoriety as a witness for Rudy Giuliani during a Michigan election-fraud hearing early this month, has been hit with a cease-and-desist letter from Dominion Voting Systems over her comments.

  • Carone's testimony, which at times drew laughter from hearing attendees, accused the company of engaging in election fraud.

  • Video of Carone's testimony went viral and prompted a parody skit on "Saturday Night Live."

  • Carone is among nearly two dozen people and companies — including Fox News, Newsmax, and OANN — who have received cease-and-desist notifications from Dominion's lawyers over election-fraud claims.

   

   

[TGHusker]

If you thought you have seen it all, it gets wackier

 

 

 

And related to that post is this one - which is very applicable IMHO:

 

[Scarlet]

And yet the cult will believe the Deep State is hiding Raffensperger's brother.

[knapplc]

 

[Moiraine]

So sick of this s#!t.

[knapplc]

Think of how much less crap this country - heck, even this message board - would have to deal with if people would just stop lending these idiots any kind of credence.

 

The only people doubting the veracity of our elections are the ones who listen to these politicians. 

 

And yet those are the same people who claim to hate politicians and want to drain the swamp. It's dumb pretzel logic that we all have to deal with.

 

 

[Scarlet]

49 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Think of how much less crap this country - heck, even this message board - would have to deal with if people would just stop lending these idiots any kind of credence.

 

The only people doubting the veracity of our elections are the ones who listen to these politicians. 

 

And yet those are the same people who claim to hate politicians and want to drain the swamp. It's dumb pretzel logic that we all have to deal with.

 

 

 

The patient is terminal.  We're witnessing the death of American democracy.  If not this time, then as soon as one party controls both houses of Congress.  At that point any presidential election will be meaningless as the template for how to overturn the will of the voters has just been laid bare for any future despot to follow.  RIP Lady Liberty

[FrantzHardySwag]

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

Think of how much less crap this country - heck, even this message board - would have to deal with if people would just stop lending these idiots any kind of credence.

 

The only people doubting the veracity of our elections are the ones who listen to these politicians. 

 

And yet those are the same people who claim to hate politicians and want to drain the swamp. It's dumb pretzel logic that we all have to deal with.

 

 

What a vague message. Might as well of posted "I like to kiss Trump's booty", it would accomplish the same thing. 

 

s#!t's been rejected by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court and their decision upheld by the Supreme Court. Just vague BS to serve as Trump Porn, rile up that base for 2024 Josh!

[DevoHusker]

3 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

 

Congressional Dems did the same in 2016, but evidently forgot the accepted protocol, and did not have any co-signers from the Senate. Oh, and Maxine Waters tried it in 2000 too. 

 

I agree that the challenge appears to be baseless, but let's not pretend that this is a GOP thing only. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-count-objections/index.html

[DevoHusker]

2 hours ago, knapplc said:

Think of how much less crap this country - heck, even this message board - would have to deal with if people would just stop lending these idiots any kind of credence.

 

The only people doubting the veracity of our elections are the ones who listen to these politicians. 

 

And yet those are the same people who claim to hate politicians and want to drain the swamp. It's dumb pretzel logic that we all have to deal with.

 

 

 

His statement, regarding past attempts at the same thing, is not wrong. His assertion however, does not appear to have any basis in fact. 

[knapplc]

8 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

His statement, regarding past attempts at the same thing, is not wrong. His assertion however, does not appear to have any basis in fact. 

 

It's misleading and disingenuous. There is nothing about this election that says "fraud" other than orange man.