BigRedBuster Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 So much of this could have been done better and he deserves some of the blame. But, I aheee with him on this statement. 4 Link to comment
Hooked on Huskers Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 8 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: So much of this could have been done better and he deserves some of the blame. But, I aheee with him on this statement. "and the buck stops with me". 2 2 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Lest we forget the former guy set this up. https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-trump-gushed-about-handing-afghanistan-over-to-the-taliban-who-would-then-kill-terrorists/ Quote Former President Donald Trump gushed about the prospect of a Taliban-led Afghanistan last year, predicting that once they took over the country, they would devote themselves to killing terrorists. Amid a blizzard of criticism for the chaos that has envelpoed Afghanistan as President Joe Biden completes the U.S withdrawal from the country, former Trump and members of his former administration have joined in to heap blame on their successors. But last February, months after canceling a planned meeting with the Taliban that would have placed the group’s leaders inside the White House on Septembr 11th, Trump gloried in the idea of a Taliban-led Afghnistan that would become a bane to terrorists. “I’ll be meeting personally with Taliban leaders in the not-too-distant future. And we’ll be very much hoping that they will be doing what they say they’re going to be doing: They will be killing terrorists. They will be killing some very bad people. They will keep that fight going,” Trump said at the Feb. 29 briefing, at which he also announced the first reported U.S. death due to COVID-19. He then praised the U.S. military for killing terrorists throughout the region over the past 20 years, and said that “now it’s time for somebody else to do that work, and that’ll be the Taliban,” adding “and it could be surrounding countries.” “I really believe the Taliban wants to do something to show that we’re not all wasting time,” Trump said, promising that ” If bad things happen, we’ll go back.” He went on to add that “I don’t think that will be necessary.” And as recently as late June of this year, Trump boasted that the deal he’d made for the withdrawal made it impossible or Biden to reverse course — and explicitly predicted the collapse of the Afghan government as soon as the U.S. departed. “I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop,” Trump told a crowd in Ohio, and said of the then-current government that they “wouldn’t last — the only way they last is if we’re there.” Link to comment
nic Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I don’t trust polls but the reaction to Biden’s speech was a C from Democrats and an F from Republicans and independents. It’s the last one that is most worrisome. I think despite the history he owns the results of the withdrawal, fair or unfair. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, nic said: I don’t trust polls but the reaction to Biden’s speech was a C from Democrats and an F from Republicans and independents. It’s the last one that is most worrisome. I think despite the history he owns the results of the withdrawal, fair or unfair. He should not own solely by himself, the fact we withdrew (which I agree with). He should own how it was done. 2 Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: He should not own solely by himself, the fact we withdrew (which I agree with). He should own how it was done. Correct, I think the vast majority of our country agrees with getting out of Afghanistan. It is ok to take ownership of how it was done and where failures may have been made. As an independent I cringed at portions of his speech. Most notably an undertone of blame pointed towards the Afghan people. Havent like 50k died fighting for their freedom? Could we have continued air support to aid for an extended period of time? I hated when Trump blamed Obama and I hate when Biden blames Trump. 2 Link to comment
nic Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: He should not own solely by himself, the fact we withdrew (which I agree with). He should own how it was done. Agreed. I wasn't very clear. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Does anyone know where these people are being flown to? I've never seen it mentioned in a report. I'm assuming one of our military bases in the region. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 10:33 AM, knapplc said: I'll believe it when I see it. There's no reason to trust these people. If I were a woman in Afghanistan I would be terrified. I just don't know why you would say such a thing. Link to comment
ZRod Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 7:44 PM, BigRedBuster said: A granade can’t be more than $10 each right? f#&%ing blow s#!t up and leave. I know it's the Internet, but there's a lot of people claiming to be former military who say those uparmored Humvees are notorious for breaking down and destroying the transmission. The drive train can't handle the extra weight. So at least those idiots won't use it for long. Just another example of military waste and bloat though. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 Her reporting has been amazing. 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Her reporting has been amazing. It is hard to imagine a country being that backwards and look so run down. Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Her reporting has been amazing. Say what you want about CNN, media, etc. Shes definitely more brave than I am. 2 Link to comment
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