BYU

[ScottyIce]

BYU is so good, I heard they haven't even been practicing this Fall Camp.

[LouieInNv]

Sorry about the typos...very hard to use these mobile device keyboards.

[IvoryTorpedo]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Outside of Hill there isn't one other player on BYU that should scare us. Stop the run and you'll win the game.

Yes, yes, absolutely. Move along, nothing to see here.

Oh, please, please, please focus the game plan on stopping the run. That would make me very happy.

I imagine pressuring him and limiting his runs will be priority #1. Doesnt sound like any of the BYU RB's are going to torch us. Controling the receivers will be business as usual.

Just curious. How tall are your cornerbacks? No reason.

Tall enough to render the Hill passing game useless.

Better hope they can jump. Our starting wide outs are 6'6" and 6'5". One is a JC transfer who rejected a USC offer to sign with BYU.

And how seasoned are these "goliaths"?

Senior and junior.

[NUance]

 

I think this is one of those tall BYU wideouts a couple years back posing with his good friend, the Notre Dame leprechaun.

 

[ADS]

If Taysom Hill is like touchdown Jesus than BYU should expect to lose. I mean we do own Notre Dame.

[DomiNUs]

 

 

I've read some interesting posts here. A lot of it is true. A lot of it is wishful myth.

 

1. Someone called BYU a mid major. As a 33 year veteran sportswriter, reading that was a laugh. Hard to call a 65,000 seat stadium, 21,000 seat Basketball venue etc. small time. BYU might be average in the B1G, but would be #3 in the B12... BYU isn't 75k and 40 years of sellouts, but it isn't johnny-come-lately KState either. While not Nebraska, BYU is much bigger than I suppose other mid-majors with much smaller venues...Oregon, ISU, Oregon State, Utah, Washington State, Stanford, CAL, Arizona, West Virginia, OkState, Texas Tech, Kansas and K State, Ol' Miss, Upchucky, Duke Wake Forest...lots more. I suspect that since the P5 program managers as AD's and coaches consider BYU a P5, perhaps the fans should have a little more respect for a program that might just bite them in the a... BYU is better than Miami.

 

2. I was shocked to read that BYU'S roster was so easily disrespected. There aren't ten programs in the country that wouldn't outright trade their WR group for BYUs. Someone asked how tall BYU'S secondary is. Their 2 deep shows everyone 6' or taller except one FCB and one safety that hits like a Mack Truck. His backup is 6'6" tall. They have foot speed. We dob't know if they have decision speed yet, but they have talent.

 

3) Riley has to utilize both the run and pass. That will be key to winning. Nebraska is very thin at receiver positions right now. BYU has in the last ten years been very good stopping the run. I like the Cornhusker line in this situation. BYU also 5alks openly about a bend but don't break approach to defense, which I think is a huge error. That defense is going to tire if they don't go press and balls to the wall w/a hard rush in 3rd and long situations. That is BYU'S only real weakness.

 

4) They are big, powerful and strong. The practice at nearly a mile above sea level so like CU, they have wind and stamina in the 4th quarter when down at 1000 ft. They are much faster than people think. They CAN run!

 

5) Nebraska must shorten the game, run run run effectively. If I th can't, then it has to pass effectively and keep up with BYU. They will move the ball and will score. First team to 24 probably wins.

You sound a lot more like a BYU fan than a 33 year sports writer.

 

In an 18 page topic,of which I freely admit I have not read all of it, I have seen very little if anyone saying that BYU is not worthy of being a power 5 team. The one exception would be some Aggie/Ute fan that is trolling along.

 

Very few here are taking BYU lightly. Some people are almost wetting their pants that Taysum Hill is going to run for 250 and 3 touchdowns and throw for 250 and 2.

 

BYU is a very solid football team. I personally, which I have said many times, have my doubts that Hill is 100% and will look like he is at mid season form. Even with that being said, I think it will be a good game, but I see NU winning by 10 or so.

I am retired. But I am also very familiar with programs west of the divide and in the interest of disclosure, did go to BYU. My comments are no less valid and you may read as you wish whatever you like. Over the years I discovered you can write the most glowing things about Program A and Program A fans will think you Homer for program B, etc. Someone mentioned Iowa and ISU. I could have read the same things on Utah, BYU and USU, OU Arizona and ASU message boards. It has always intrigued me that you can write honestly about a situation and if the truth brings discomfort, it's shoot the messanger. I have always had a soft spot in my inner fan for certain programs and leaders. Dr. Tom Osborn is one of them. Therefor NU is one of them. I couldn't stand Berry Switzer so it's always been tougher for me to appreciate the Sooner even though Bob Stoops is actually a really good guy. Mack Briwn, good, therefor ok w/Texas. People, strategies, traditions, styles, after 33 years one realizes thate such details are what the game is about.

 

I get your impression regarding my comments. I in no way want to offend. I am just reminding people that BYU is not McMeese State or Kansas. NU is opening against a program that is 6-2 all time since the late 80's vs. aTm, Oklahoma and Texas. They will go to Lincoln expecting to won, not hoping for it. Nebraska will be defending their beautiful red stadium expecting to win. BYU is usually a pretty good road team. It will be ready and healthy. Same with Nebraska. Parent ABC is televising that game in prime time for a reason. It expects an exciting and possibly high scoring affair. So my earlier comments were, respect the opponent. It's people respect Nebraska and look at the game just that way. You should visit their webside, do a roster walk x position group. Those are not mid-major athletes. And yes, several of fellow posters went down that road.

 

Black shirts are back. Riley is a marvelous coach. Give him time to get his system in place. With Nebraska's athletes, he's no 9-4 guy permanently. He's a tremendous game coach and stratigist as well. You'll like him. Honestly, I do think BYU is a really tough 1st out for NU. Pressure is all on Nebraska. BYU is on average 1.1 years older than the average team (missions). Again, not Wyoming!

 

I think mostly everyone here is expecting a good game from BYU. Just a little trash talking going on in a message board, that's all. Sorry if you already posted this but who do you think wins?

 

I'm thinking Nebraska and here is why. BYU suspensions, talent gap and home field advantage. I think their #1 RB will be out as well with injury.

 

I also have issue with the fact that BYU is a mid major program, and they stunk it up last year with five losses to other mid-major schools, while only beating three P5 schools. To get out of mid major status, they need to join a conference. Play 9 P5 schools plus an additional one or two in the non-con. Even an independent schedule like that will get BYU out of "mid major" classification.

[Joe_5700]

I don't think anyone is taking BYU lightly... At least those who know anything about college football or have seen BYU play recently. Last BYU was on a tear until Hill was injured. Bad news is Hill is back, and the good news is Fua graduated. It's going to be one heck of a game that to me is a toss up.

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Outside of Hill there isn't one other player on BYU that should scare us. Stop the run and you'll win the game.

Yes, yes, absolutely. Move along, nothing to see here.

Oh, please, please, please focus the game plan on stopping the run. That would make me very happy.

I imagine pressuring him and limiting his runs will be priority #1. Doesnt sound like any of the BYU RB's are going to torch us. Controling the receivers will be business as usual.

Just curious. How tall are your cornerbacks? No reason.

Tall enough to render the Hill passing game useless.

Better hope they can jump. Our starting wide outs are 6'6" and 6'5". One is a JC transfer who rejected a USC offer to sign with BYU.

And how seasoned are these "goliaths"?

Senior and junior.

Both been in for a year or is this the JUCO's first season?

[IvoryTorpedo]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Outside of Hill there isn't one other player on BYU that should scare us. Stop the run and you'll win the game.

Yes, yes, absolutely. Move along, nothing to see here.

Oh, please, please, please focus the game plan on stopping the run. That would make me very happy.

I imagine pressuring him and limiting his runs will be priority #1. Doesnt sound like any of the BYU RB's are going to torch us. Controling the receivers will be business as usual.

Just curious. How tall are your cornerbacks? No reason.

Tall enough to render the Hill passing game useless.

Better hope they can jump. Our starting wide outs are 6'6" and 6'5". One is a JC transfer who rejected a USC offer to sign with BYU.

And how seasoned are these "goliaths"?

Senior and junior.

Both been in for a year or is this the JUCO's first season?

The senior has been with BYU all 4 years. The junior is a Juco transfer who redshirted last year due to a foot fracture.

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Outside of Hill there isn't one other player on BYU that should scare us. Stop the run and you'll win the game.

Yes, yes, absolutely. Move along, nothing to see here.

Oh, please, please, please focus the game plan on stopping the run. That would make me very happy.

I imagine pressuring him and limiting his runs will be priority #1. Doesnt sound like any of the BYU RB's are going to torch us. Controling the receivers will be business as usual.

Just curious. How tall are your cornerbacks? No reason.

Tall enough to render the Hill passing game useless.

Better hope they can jump. Our starting wide outs are 6'6" and 6'5". One is a JC transfer who rejected a USC offer to sign with BYU.

And how seasoned are these "goliaths"?

Senior and junior.

Both been in for a year or is this the JUCO's first season?

The senior has been with BYU all 4 years. The junior is a Juco transfer who redshirted last year due to a foot fracture.

So he at least has been in the system a year. Not bad at all. Will be a difficult time stopping them since we don't know how Banker will utilize the Secondary.

 

But Bo did know how to coach the Safeties and Corners. Our group is talented and has matched up with bigger guys before. Will be fun to watch.

[teachercd]

Will this thread end up with 50,000 views?

[ScottyIce]

Will this thread end up with 50,000 views?

 

Depends if 50,000 views occur. If so, the answer to your question is yes.

[Minnesota_husker]

Will this thread end up with 50,000 views?

As we get closer to the game it might.

[WindowCoug]

 

 

I'm thinking Nebraska and here is why. BYU suspensions, talent gap and home field advantage. I think their #1 RB will be out as well with injury.

 

I also have issue with the fact that BYU is a mid major program, and they stunk it up last year with five losses to other mid-major schools, while only beating three P5 schools. To get out of mid major status, they need to join a conference. Play 9 P5 schools plus an additional one or two in the non-con. Even an independent schedule like that will get BYU out of "mid major" classification.

 

 

 

 

"I'm thinking Nebraska and here is why. BYU suspensions, talent gap and home field advantage. I think their #1 RB will be out as well with injury."

 

I agree with you about the game, but there isn't a talent gap at lots of positions. BYU's 8th linebacker is a good player. All the WR on the roster are good players, and our 2nd string QB is a potential All American in a couple of years. When you say talent gap it sounds like you think BYU is a Sunbelt team with a couple nice players.

 

I also have issue with the fact that BYU is a mid major program, and they stunk it up last year with five losses to other mid-major schools, while only beating three P5 schools. To get out of mid major status, they need to join a conference. Play 9 P5 schools plus an additional one or two in the non-con. Even an independent schedule like that will get BYU out of "mid major" classification.

Haha. "Let them eat cake."

The Pac X won't let BYU in because they don't want a Mormon school in the conference. It's referred to as "cultural differences". BYU's geography and refusal to play Sunday games are probably deal breakers for the Big 12. BYU would love to join a P5 conference.

BYU is playing the best games they can get right now. They can't just make a few calls and fill the whole schedule with H:H's with anyone they want all season long. The schedule shows the challenges BYU faces, getting late season games, and getting home games. They are playing the best schedule they can find and still get 6 home games.

Away games in 2015: Nebraska, UCLA, Michigan, Missouri ("Neutral"), San Jose State, and Utah State.

Home games in 2015: Boise State, Connecticut, East Carolina, Cincinnati, Wagner (part of the deal to play Missouri), and Fresno.

The program has been down for a few years, but still wins plenty of games in down years. I think you would have a hard time saying BYU's facilities and on the field performance are not at least on par with a middle of the pack P5 school.

[Moiraine]

 

 

 

I'm thinking Nebraska and here is why. BYU suspensions, talent gap and home field advantage. I think their #1 RB will be out as well with injury.

 

I also have issue with the fact that BYU is a mid major program, and they stunk it up last year with five losses to other mid-major schools, while only beating three P5 schools. To get out of mid major status, they need to join a conference. Play 9 P5 schools plus an additional one or two in the non-con. Even an independent schedule like that will get BYU out of "mid major" classification.

 

 

 

 

"I'm thinking Nebraska and here is why. BYU suspensions, talent gap and home field advantage. I think their #1 RB will be out as well with injury."

 

I agree with you about the game, but there isn't a talent gap at lots of positions. BYU's 8th linebacker is a good player. All the WR on the roster are good players, and our 2nd string QB is a potential All American in a couple of years. When you say talent gap it sounds like you think BYU is a Sunbelt team with a couple nice players.

 

 

It sounds that way because that's the way you wanted it to sound. All he said was "talent gap" and you read everything else into it.

 

Fact is, BYU's average recruiting rank the past 4 years on rivals is 67.75. That's a talent gap, even if the ratings aren't perfect. But it doesn't mean Nebraska's going to win.