Blackshirt_Revival Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. We are in a conference which has the following head coaches: Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Jim Harbaugh, Jerry Kill, Pat Fitzgerald, and James Franklin. Kevin Wilson also has Indiana, yes, INDI-FREAKING-ANA on the rise. Do you believe Riley and this staff can/will field teams that can compete and beat these coaches' teams on a consistent basis? I sure don't (but of course, neither of us can predict the future, only hypothesize). But beyond that, what this staff has done so far has tried ramming a square peg into a round hole. Hard. This is much more akin to what Callahan did in '04 than to what Bo did in '08 (and yes, I wanted Bo gone as bad as anyone). Nebraska will not ever be a team that runs this pass happy pro/west coast style offense and has success with it. It is not our identity, it never has been, and it never will be (and please nobody bring up "But Osborne's offenses in the 70s!" Yeah, back when running a 'pro' style offense meant throwing it like 15 times a game). Plus playing in a conference that experiences rough weather with other very physical teams that can ground and pound means we need to be able to ground and pound, too, and thwart it, something we used to do better than anyone. This was Nebraska's identity. This was Nebraska's 'niche'. It needs to come back. We cannot and will not win championships running some generic nonsense hodgepodge or 'flavor of the week' offense relying on high star recruiting and facilities alone when this is what every other program in the nation does. We need that thing that makes us 'us'. Just my $.02 Yes so fire riley after year one. If he is bad after year three(I believe he got a three year deal)then I wouldn't mind letting him go after three years. This process isn't going to heal in year one, we have to believe in the coaches. Will you want riley fired if he gets us to go 8-4 and win a bowl game? Anyway no one will want to coach here if we fire a coach after year one. He hasn't been here one year and lets all crucify him already. Square peg in a round hole argument is not correct. We are better at passing than running. I want to run the ball a lot more too dont get me wrong but no one will want to coach here if we fire him after year one. Give it time. If he goes 8-4 and wins a bowl game, I will find Al Golden and eat his tie. Fresh. Post-game. I was all for giving the guy more time as well, but from what I have seen so far, I don't have any faith he and his staff can bring us back to where we need to be and want to be as Husker fans, and we will only be prolonging the agony by keeping him around. While I do think we are a better passing team than teams we have had in the past, how do we even know we are better at that than running? We were a team that rushed for over 3000 yards last year, around 500 more than we passed for, with the same returning qb. I realize Abdullah is gone, and that hurts, but we have some very capable backs on our roster, and at least 3 who are probably better than our starter, along with a qb who can run, yet we don't commit to the run whatsoever. We are a team that is still built to run more than pass, and that is what our identity is and should be moving forward if we want to find long-term, sustainable success, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment
FrustratedHuskerFan Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. We are in a conference which has the following head coaches: Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Jim Harbaugh, Jerry Kill, Pat Fitzgerald, and James Franklin. Kevin Wilson also has Indiana, yes, INDI-FREAKING-ANA on the rise. Do you believe Riley and this staff can/will field teams that can compete and beat these coaches' teams on a consistent basis? I sure don't (but of course, neither of us can predict the future, only hypothesize). But beyond that, what this staff has done so far has tried ramming a square peg into a round hole. Hard. This is much more akin to what Callahan did in '04 than to what Bo did in '08 (and yes, I wanted Bo gone as bad as anyone). Nebraska will not ever be a team that runs this pass happy pro/west coast style offense and has success with it. It is not our identity, it never has been, and it never will be (and please nobody bring up "But Osborne's offenses in the 70s!" Yeah, back when running a 'pro' style offense meant throwing it like 15 times a game). Plus playing in a conference that experiences rough weather with other very physical teams that can ground and pound means we need to be able to ground and pound, too, and thwart it, something we used to do better than anyone. This was Nebraska's identity. This was Nebraska's 'niche'. It needs to come back. We cannot and will not win championships running some generic nonsense hodgepodge or 'flavor of the week' offense relying on high star recruiting and facilities alone when this is what every other program in the nation does. We need that thing that makes us 'us'. Just my $.02 Yes so fire riley after year one. If he is bad after year three(I believe he got a three year deal)then I wouldn't mind letting him go after three years. This process isn't going to heal in year one, we have to believe in the coaches. Will you want riley fired if he gets us to go 8-4 and win a bowl game? Anyway no one will want to coach here if we fire a coach after year one. He hasn't been here one year and lets all crucify him already. Square peg in a round hole argument is not correct. We are better at passing than running. I want to run the ball a lot more too dont get me wrong but no one will want to coach here if we fire him after year one. Give it time. I have a better chance of winning the lottery and then being struck by lightning than of this happening Well we are being competitive in games with no blowouts which is what people wanted. These clsoe games will get on our side sometimes and why can't they be on our side later this year? Teams start 0-6 and go 6-6 how? They realize one or two losses isn't the end of the world and play their darn butts off to finish the season. 7 games reamaining tuff ones at home I believe in this coach and team. If you don't want to go cheer for 5-0 Iowa who beat Wiscy and Idk who else This is exactly the reason Riley has a .500 ish winning percentage. His style quite clearly ends up on the wrong side just as easily as it ends up on the right side. 1 Quote Link to comment
URSS Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Let's try another approach. Hire the coaches as a team at $1.5 million per game. If they win, they get the money to split up. If rhey lose, they get nothing. Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Scott Frost, because he's running Helfrich's system at Oregon. He's said in an interview that he sees the value of running the football from a power stand point and would love to implement it in his system. I think Frost would bring a unique blend of spread concepts and power football. Something like TO was running with Frost back in '97. agree. TO was running the spread before anyone knew what spread was. 1 Quote Link to comment
74Hunter Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. We are in a conference which has the following head coaches: Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Jim Harbaugh, Jerry Kill, Pat Fitzgerald, and James Franklin. Kevin Wilson also has Indiana, yes, INDI-FREAKING-ANA on the rise. Do you believe Riley and this staff can/will field teams that can compete and beat these coaches' teams on a consistent basis? I sure don't (but of course, neither of us can predict the future, only hypothesize). But beyond that, what this staff has done so far has tried ramming a square peg into a round hole. Hard. This is much more akin to what Callahan did in '04 than to what Bo did in '08 (and yes, I wanted Bo gone as bad as anyone). Nebraska will not ever be a team that runs this pass happy pro/west coast style offense and has success with it. It is not our identity, it never has been, and it never will be (and please nobody bring up "But Osborne's offenses in the 70s!" Yeah, back when running a 'pro' style offense meant throwing it like 15 times a game). Plus playing in a conference that experiences rough weather with other very physical teams that can ground and pound means we need to be able to ground and pound, too, and thwart it, something we used to do better than anyone. This was Nebraska's identity. This was Nebraska's 'niche'. It needs to come back. We cannot and will not win championships running some generic nonsense hodgepodge or 'flavor of the week' offense relying on high star recruiting and facilities alone when this is what every other program in the nation does. We need that thing that makes us 'us'. Just my $.02 Yes so fire riley after year one. If he is bad after year three(I believe he got a three year deal)then I wouldn't mind letting him go after three years. This process isn't going to heal in year one, we have to believe in the coaches. Will you want riley fired if he gets us to go 8-4 and win a bowl game? Anyway no one will want to coach here if we fire a coach after year one. He hasn't been here one year and lets all crucify him already. Square peg in a round hole argument is not correct. We are better at passing than running. I want to run the ball a lot more too dont get me wrong but no one will want to coach here if we fire him after year one. Give it time. I have a better chance of winning the lottery and then being struck by lightning than of this happening Well we are being competitive in games with no blowouts which is what people wanted. These clsoe games will get on our side sometimes and why can't they be on our side later this year? Teams start 0-6 and go 6-6 how? They realize one or two losses isn't the end of the world and play their darn butts off to finish the season. 7 games reamaining tuff ones at home I believe in this coach and team. If you don't want to go cheer for 5-0 Iowa who beat Wiscy and Idk who else I'd give you a participation ribbon for your post, but I don't have any. Maybe next week. 1 Quote Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 f'ing howdy doody! LOL this needs more +1's. Wow, I needed that laugh. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 f'ing howdy doody! It would seem that's who we have now. Quote Link to comment
Tomhusker64 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Maybe Riley will want to retire after all the heat he'll catch from the fan base. This ain't Corvallis. Quote Link to comment
Dagerow Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Art Briles Jim Murrow Dabo Swinney Pat Fiztgerald Yes, I know the chances aren't great for anyone of them, but if you offer a lot of money and autonomy, one might bite. Oh, and Mack Brown replaces Shawn. Quote Link to comment
HuskermanMike Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. We are in a conference which has the following head coaches: Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Jim Harbaugh, Jerry Kill, Pat Fitzgerald, and James Franklin. Kevin Wilson also has Indiana, yes, INDI-FREAKING-ANA on the rise. Do you believe Riley and this staff can/will field teams that can compete and beat these coaches' teams on a consistent basis? I sure don't (but of course, neither of us can predict the future, only hypothesize). But beyond that, what this staff has done so far has tried ramming a square peg into a round hole. Hard. This is much more akin to what Callahan did in '04 than to what Bo did in '08 (and yes, I wanted Bo gone as bad as anyone). Nebraska will not ever be a team that runs this pass happy pro/west coast style offense and has success with it. It is not our identity, it never has been, and it never will be (and please nobody bring up "But Osborne's offenses in the 70s!" Yeah, back when running a 'pro' style offense meant throwing it like 15 times a game). Plus playing in a conference that experiences rough weather with other very physical teams that can ground and pound means we need to be able to ground and pound, too, and thwart it, something we used to do better than anyone. This was Nebraska's identity. This was Nebraska's 'niche'. It needs to come back. We cannot and will not win championships running some generic nonsense hodgepodge or 'flavor of the week' offense relying on high star recruiting and facilities alone when this is what every other program in the nation does. We need that thing that makes us 'us'. Just my $.02 Yes so fire riley after year one. If he is bad after year three(I believe he got a three year deal)then I wouldn't mind letting him go after three years. This process isn't going to heal in year one, we have to believe in the coaches. Will you want riley fired if he gets us to go 8-4 and win a bowl game? Anyway no one will want to coach here if we fire a coach after year one. He hasn't been here one year and lets all crucify him already. Square peg in a round hole argument is not correct. We are better at passing than running. I want to run the ball a lot more too dont get me wrong but no one will want to coach here if we fire him after year one. Give it time. I have a better chance of winning the lottery and then being struck by lightning than of this happening Well we are being competitive in games with no blowouts which is what people wanted. These clsoe games will get on our side sometimes and why can't they be on our side later this year? Teams start 0-6 and go 6-6 how? They realize one or two losses isn't the end of the world and play their darn butts off to finish the season. 7 games reamaining tuff ones at home I believe in this coach and team. If you don't want to go cheer for 5-0 Iowa who beat Wiscy and Idk who else I'd give you a participation ribbon for your post, but I don't have any. Maybe next week. Ok what coach wants to come here knowing they have one year to make it to a conference championship? Anyway Im gonna cheer for Mike Rileys cornhuskers whether you want to or not. If you want to cheer for wiscy next week be my guest I won't bash you for cheering for whoever you want to cheer for. I believe in this team but again it will take time. We can't fix everything in one season, but we will have to wait and see how well we do in the next three years, not half a year. Edit: Thanks for the participation ribbon I will try harder next time. 1 Quote Link to comment
Highway6 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. This staff showed complete and utter incompetence unlike anything we saw in Bo's first three losses. So no not buying the "needs more time" argument. 2 Quote Link to comment
74Hunter Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. This staff showed complete and utter incompetence unlike anything we saw in Bo's first three losses. So no not buying the "needs more time" argument. #experience Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Eichorst needs to be jettisoned before we can can Riley...but that needs to happen, as it's painfully obvious now that Eichorst has no clue how to manage a big time football program (see his missteps at Miami and here). I would be good with a Scott Frost hire...with the caveat that he brings on a seasoned DC and staff that has a history of success. Venerables would be a good one to steal for DC, if we could. Oh, and if Scott Frost hires Marvin Sanders. Scott Frost HC Brent Venables as DC (need to pay a lot to have him leave Clemson) Marvelous Marvin Sanders Ron Brown as RB coach The list goes on and on. I liked Calhoun before Riley and Monken (sp) from Army. Chad Morris as well. We had a chance to get a home run and we swung and missed. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. This staff showed complete and utter incompetence unlike anything we saw in Bo's first three losses. So no not buying the "needs more time" argument. #experience Quantity does not equal quality...... I tried to convince myself it did. After today, hell no. Quote Link to comment
GOAT Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, let's fire a coach five games into his tenure. If I recall correctly Bo started out 3-3 in his first year here and we finished the season out well.(except OU loss) Time, Time, Time, it costs you games with management but it can lead to good things. We are in a conference which has the following head coaches: Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Jim Harbaugh, Jerry Kill, Pat Fitzgerald, and James Franklin. Kevin Wilson also has Indiana, yes, INDI-FREAKING-ANA on the rise. Do you believe Riley and this staff can/will field teams that can compete and beat these coaches' teams on a consistent basis? I sure don't (but of course, neither of us can predict the future, only hypothesize). But beyond that, what this staff has done so far has tried ramming a square peg into a round hole. Hard. This is much more akin to what Callahan did in '04 than to what Bo did in '08 (and yes, I wanted Bo gone as bad as anyone). Nebraska will not ever be a team that runs this pass happy pro/west coast style offense and has success with it. It is not our identity, it never has been, and it never will be (and please nobody bring up "But Osborne's offenses in the 70s!" Yeah, back when running a 'pro' style offense meant throwing it like 15 times a game). Plus playing in a conference that experiences rough weather with other very physical teams that can ground and pound means we need to be able to ground and pound, too, and thwart it, something we used to do better than anyone. This was Nebraska's identity. This was Nebraska's 'niche'. It needs to come back. We cannot and will not win championships running some generic nonsense hodgepodge or 'flavor of the week' offense relying on high star recruiting and facilities alone when this is what every other program in the nation does. We need that thing that makes us 'us'. Just my $.02 Yes so fire riley after year one. If he is bad after year three(I believe he got a three year deal)then I wouldn't mind letting him go after three years. This process isn't going to heal in year one, we have to believe in the coaches. Will you want riley fired if he gets us to go 8-4 and win a bowl game? Anyway no one will want to coach here if we fire a coach after year one. He hasn't been here one year and lets all crucify him already. Square peg in a round hole argument is not correct. We are better at passing than running. I want to run the ball a lot more too dont get me wrong but no one will want to coach here if we fire him after year one. Give it time. I have a better chance of winning the lottery and then being struck by lightning than of this happening Well we are being competitive in games with no blowouts which is what people wanted. These clsoe games will get on our side sometimes and why can't they be on our side later this year? Teams start 0-6 and go 6-6 how? They realize one or two losses isn't the end of the world and play their darn butts off to finish the season. 7 games reamaining tuff ones at home I believe in this coach and team. If you don't want to go cheer for 5-0 Iowa who beat Wiscy and Idk who else Cool story, bro. Keep trying to convince yourself that there's a snowball's chance in hell of this team winning anything this year. 1 Quote Link to comment
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