Husker66 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Finally we were on the good end of bad decision making. 45 years of watching football, Positive I haven't witnessed that before. he kicks, they get the Dub. If he kicks them all they get a tie. Or, like the announcers, are we only going to criticize the plays that didn't work, and not the same ones that did? they win if the kick the rest, they scored 5 td's , got 1 2 pointer, left 4 points if they kick the rest. they win 36-35 if my math is correct Quote Link to comment
shyndy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Finally we were on the good end of bad decision making. 45 years of watching football, Positive I haven't witnessed that before. he kicks, they get the Dub. If he kicks them all they get a tie. Or, like the announcers, are we only going to criticize the plays that didn't work, and not the same ones that did? they win if the kick the rest, they scored 5 td's , got 1 2 pointer, left 4 points if they kick the rest. they win 36-35 if my math is correct That's what he's saying though. You can't just question the ones that didn't work. Have to change the first one to one point as well. Would have scored 35 points. also in alternate universe land, maybe we block one or they miss one. Hey it happens a couple times a year Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 One problem I have with going for 2 is the psychological aspect for the defense if they stop it. When we stopped their last 2 point conversion I was really excited (cheered out loud even). I can imagine it helps the defense to get past the TD they let occur and stay positive. Quote Link to comment
Bowfin Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 This was one of those "Live by the sword, die by the sword" things. It works great except when it doesn't. Riley looked like a genius and maybe gave a little boost to his own team by saying, "Double extra points?! We don't need no stinkin' double extra points if we get enough touchdowns to go with our single extra points!" Quote Link to comment
BoNeyard Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 These decisions were absolutely bonheaded and really changed the entire game. You keep going for one after you go up 8-0, and suddenly halftime is 22-14, which creates a much different dynamic and issue for Nebraska on their come back. Then of course in the end it gets you to 36 points to Nebraska's 35. But I won't complain about Oregon's arrogance, it is what got their program to their highest heights, and now appears to be a problem. Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 One thing I haven't seen anyone mention though is giving credit to Riley for obviously having practiced for those plays defensively very well. Riley knew beyond a shadow of a doubt they'd be doing this. He obviously prepared for it very well. We beat a great team by being prepared for exactly what they'd bring...I'm going to celebrate Riley's huge accomplishment in this and every other category. 1 Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Big red reaction is different after a win. Quote Link to comment
BoNeyard Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 One thing I haven't seen anyone mention though is giving credit to Riley for obviously having practiced for those plays defensively very well. Riley knew beyond a shadow of a doubt they'd be doing this. He obviously prepared for it very well. We beat a great team by being prepared for exactly what they'd bring...I'm going to celebrate Riley's huge accomplishment in this and every other category. The 4th and 9 with what? 3:30 left in the game was absolutely huge. That is Riley knowing his opponent. Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 One thing I haven't seen anyone mention though is giving credit to Riley for obviously having practiced for those plays defensively very well. Riley knew beyond a shadow of a doubt they'd be doing this. He obviously prepared for it very well. We beat a great team by being prepared for exactly what they'd bring...I'm going to celebrate Riley's huge accomplishment in this and every other category. The 4th and 9 with what? 3:30 left in the game was absolutely huge. That is Riley knowing his opponent. And I know he stated in the post game he was unsure what to do but this was a man who went for it on his own 40 in the first half. I'm thinking this call should have been a no brained. Quote Link to comment
huskerdude171 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Kinda looked like the last 2 point conversion try was good for Oregon, the QB raced to the pylon and ended up hitting it, I guess they said he was already down, if he had just reached the ball out they would have had it, not like they would have won anyway, since it would've brought them to 34 points instead of 32. I still think he got jipped a bit but I'll take it Ok take a look here, this proves me wrong and the call was right http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journalstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/30/13031f67-1a6d-524c-81e2-9a946b5d210e/57dde22c7a0b4.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C806 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Another point about them kicking instead of going for 2, even if we include the first 2 pointer and say they kicked the rest, it would still be impossible to say how that would change the outcome of the game. They would have scored 36 points but also our team and coaches would have reacted differently to the situation if they had more points and could have still scored 38 instead of 35. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 At the half, Helfrich said he did the first one because "some guy" wasn't paying attention. Almost condescending IMO. Glad it bit him in the a$$. Condescending or just...true? It worked for them. I don't see this as arrogance or bravado or flash or anything. Oregon has always done this - they're a high risk high reward team that has built an incredible program off of stuff like this. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I am sure it was true. He said it matter of fact. The the tone condescending IMO. Quote Link to comment
BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Today was abnormal even for Oregon. Coming into the game they had been successfull on 3 of 6 2 point conversion attempts after 13 TDs scored. 2015 they were 0 for 4 after 70 TDs scored 2014 they were 4 for 7 after 88 TDs scored 2013 they were 2 for 6 after 80 TDs scored 2012 they were 4 for 6 after 89 TDs scored 2011 they were 5 for 7 after 88 TDs scored 2010 they were 7 for 8 after 80 TDs scored 1 Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Paul Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Helfrich defended every 2-pt attempt saying it looked advantageous based on the situation he saw on the field. Quote Link to comment
admo Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 One thing I haven't seen anyone mention though is giving credit to Riley for obviously having practiced for those plays defensively very well. Riley knew beyond a shadow of a doubt they'd be doing this. He obviously prepared for it very well. We beat a great team by being prepared for exactly what they'd bring...I'm going to celebrate Riley's huge accomplishment in this and every other category. +1 My thinking too. They were so prepared and ready for those gimmicky 2 point tries. It paid off. Quote Link to comment
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