SouthLincoln Husker Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I don't care who the coach is, they are going after the best player with schollies they have allotted by position. Which is a lot less then TO had. Secondly, tuition is high and not everyone can afford to pay for their education. I do not know why, but it sure seems like talent in this state (football & Basketball) gets worse each year. Link to comment
WhatDoIKnow Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I played HS football with 2 kids in the mid-80s that turned down scholarships from ISU, KSU, KS, WY, Iowa, and other schools to walk on at Nebraska. They both had talent but fizzled out. That was mid-80s tuition costs. Unless money isn't an issue for the parents, I can't imagine turning down a full-ride to walk on with tuition costs now. <---- Parent of a kid that was only offered a basic academic scholarship to UNL but earned a complete full-ride academic scholarship to an out-of-state P5 school. First semester cost $12.50 only because her dorm is nicer than a 4-star hotel. Edited October 17, 2017 by WhatDoIKnow 1 Link to comment
Cy the Cyclone Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 From experience...I have coached six kids in the last five years who are now on scholarship and playing for Power Five schools...Iowa, Wisconsin, Iowa State, TCU and Michigan State. Nebraska only talked with one of them and that was because his father was a former Husker. Maybe it's time to look at work ethic and potential instead of stars and rankings? 2 Link to comment
Xmas32 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 How many of the walk on kids that made up the mid 90s teams actually go to NU if given todays scholarship standards? I'd be stunned if a guy like Joel Mackovicka ended up @ Nebraska nowadays. Link to comment
brophog Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Cy the Cyclone said: From experience...I have coached six kids in the last five years who are now on scholarship and playing for Power Five schools...Iowa, Wisconsin, Iowa State, TCU and Michigan State. Nebraska only talked with one of them and that was because his father was a former Husker. Maybe it's time to look at work ethic and potential instead of stars and rankings? Intersting. Did you have any communication with Nebraska or any of the other programs about this? Was there any desire from any of these schools to build an institutional relation? That's a grab bag of schools there, so I'm a bit curious as to the ways different programs handled things. Link to comment
Cy the Cyclone Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Both Iowa State and Iowa are very good about establishing relationships with kids, parents and coaching staffs...and not above leaning on parents when it comes to legacy players (i.e. Allan Lazard from Urbandale). Iowa has a real big presence in central Iowa and Iowa State's sphere is growing. These two seem to pick off most of the recruits The other schools had various ins with families or friends. We have a good amount of potential D1 footballers in Iowa but other than in state schools, nobody pays much attention unless we actively promote them to other schools. I leave that decision up to the player and his parents. I digress...yes, we did actively promote a couple of these players to Nebraska but didn't get any scholarship offers. One ended up at Iowa with a full ride scholarship and the other walked on at Iowa State and earned his football scholarship last year. Did any of that answer the question or do I need to take some more Robitussin and go to bed? 1 Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Cy the Cyclone said: From experience...I have coached six kids in the last five years who are now on scholarship and playing for Power Five schools...Iowa, Wisconsin, Iowa State, TCU and Michigan State. Nebraska only talked with one of them and that was because his father was a former Husker. Maybe it's time to look at work ethic and potential instead of stars and rankings? Dowling is now the powerhouse in Iowa...move over Valley Link to comment
bugeater17 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Cy the Cyclone said: Both Iowa State and Iowa are very good about establishing relationships with kids, parents and coaching staffs...and not above leaning on parents when it comes to legacy players (i.e. Allan Lazard from Urbandale). Iowa has a real big presence in central Iowa and Iowa State's sphere is growing. These two seem to pick off most of the recruits The other schools had various ins with families or friends. We have a good amount of potential D1 footballers in Iowa but other than in state schools, nobody pays much attention unless we actively promote them to other schools. I leave that decision up to the player and his parents. I digress...yes, we did actively promote a couple of these players to Nebraska but didn't get any scholarship offers. One ended up at Iowa with a full ride scholarship and the other walked on at Iowa State and earned his football scholarship last year. Did any of that answer the question or do I need to take some more Robitussin and go to bed? Great insights on both posts Cy. Appreciate your contribution to the board. Link to comment
trouble Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 This thread is amusing IMO. I was at the game last Saturday and when they were going through the starting lineups all I could think was... " We have too many NE kids starting". Im all fine with the NE walk on story and what not but 50% of our starters shouldn't be Nebraska kids. You act like we cant pull talent from other regions. Are there some names that get away? Sure, but getting more Nebraska kids isn't going to save this program. Getting kids that have the talent to run the system and scheme is what will help. 1 Link to comment
Isle of View Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, trouble said: This thread is amusing IMO. I was at the game last Saturday and when they were going through the starting lineups all I could think was... " We have too many NE kids starting". Im all fine with the NE walk on story and what not but 50% of our starters shouldn't be Nebraska kids. You act like we cant pull talent from other regions. Are there some names that get away? Sure, but getting more Nebraska kids isn't going to save this program. Getting kids that have the talent to run the system and scheme is what will help. The '97 Husker offense just called. They LOLed. 3 Link to comment
junior4949 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/16/2017 at 5:24 PM, BartonHusker said: Majority of Wisconsin's offensive lineman are from Wisconsin. There have been some pretty good lineman have gone off to places like Wyoming or Ohio as of late. Kids Osborne likely would've taken but now we don't go after as hard because they may not be "tall enough". Those kids are pretty much starting at those schools immediately. Honestly I think Walker is going to be a good lineman for us and he was headed for Wyoming until the last moment. Rush, Arnold and Stofer would've probably done just as well or if not better in the future than many of the lineman we currently have. The bolded is a misconception. TO was very good about visiting and recruiting in-state kids, but it was to walk-on. TO didn't give out a ton of schollies to in-state talent. This probably explains why we had so many walk-ons playing especially on the OL. With skyrocketing tuition costs, it would be interesting to see whether TO would be able to get as many in-state players to walk-on as he did two and three decades ago. Link to comment
trouble Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Isle of View said: The '97 Husker offense just called. They LOLed. This day and age is different. I grew up watching the Huskers through the late 80s and 90s. I know the walk on program and the amount of Nebraska kids on those teams. College football is not the same. You cannot rely on the same principals and ways that were successful 20+ years ago and anybody who thinks you can is off thier rocker. Link to comment
commando Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, trouble said: This thread is amusing IMO. I was at the game last Saturday and when they were going through the starting lineups all I could think was... " We have too many NE kids starting". Im all fine with the NE walk on story and what not but 50% of our starters shouldn't be Nebraska kids. You act like we cant pull talent from other regions. Are there some names that get away? Sure, but getting more Nebraska kids isn't going to save this program. Getting kids that have the talent to run the system and scheme is what will help. how many nebraska kids started? i think we had maybe 6 starters from nebraska on the offense and defense combined unless there were some starters due to injury that i can't recall. Link to comment
trouble Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, commando said: how many nebraska kids started? i think we had maybe 6 starters from nebraska on the offense and defense combined unless there were some starters due to injury that i can't recall. Including Rahn and Reimers. 10 I believe. 50% is obviously a slight exaggeration but both starting TEs, 2 starting LBs. 2 WRs. As I said, everybody loves the walk on tradition and seeing Nebraska kids succeeding but we wonder why we can't compete with the teams like OSU? Yeah, theres some coaching issues for sure, but it's still a lack of talent. Just my unpopular .02 Link to comment
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