cheekygeek Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Adrian Martinez, J.D. Speilman, Maurice Washington, Jack Stoll, and add Wandale Robinson? Some Big Ten DCs are going to have some sleepless nights. Quote Link to comment
cheekygeek Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, suh_fan93 said: And that toy just happens to be a Transformer... 1 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Guys like this make football a game of chess. In a perfect offense you would have a QB that can run (remember the dorks that felt Tanner Lee could run enough to keep the D worried about him) and you have 5 skill guys that can run and catch. My guess, and I am not a college coach, is that defenses are no longer reacting to personal packages (11, 21, 12, and so on) because most offenses do not really want a true TE, WR, RB anymore...FB/TE got changed to H-Back...and years ago a RB that could catch was a Halfback...QB's used to hate being called an "Athlete" but that is all changing. Again this is just my lame guess, but DC's are not subbing their guys based on the position that a guy is listed it...but they are basing it on what their guys on defense can do best. So if you have 5 OL and a QB that can run...then you have Washington and Robinson in the game...JD (who can carry the ball or do WR screens) as the DC, I want 3 DL, 3 LB's and 5 DBs. I would rather give up 10 yards than 50... I personally do not sub players based on who the other team puts in...I just change their depth...but I coach at a level where my best 11 guys are already on the field...that is not the case in D1 football. 1 Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mavric said: The next Rondale Moore THE Wandale Robinson 2 1 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 29 minutes ago, GSG said: The next Rondale Moore THE Wandale Robinson Absolutely. 2 different players, 2 different positions. The appeal of Wandale is only partly in what he can do with the ball in his hands, it's also the fact we now have our hybrid hb/wr. That's a huge part of this offense missing from last year. To give one of many examples, this is a scenario that happened often at UCF/Oregon: Come out in 3 receivers, Wandale and Washington in split backs. What personnel does the defense choose? That personnel suggests run, with the qb potentially representing 3 runners in the backfield. If you come out to match with two LBs and Wandale motions out, especially to something like trips, that's a huge mismatch. If you represent a weak box and Wandale stays as a back, you could be facing something like a triple option with either back as the dive. Having a guy like Wandale gives an offense the luxury of benefitting from both 1 back and 2 back systems at the same time. It opens up a new dimension to this offense. 4 1 Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 4:29 PM, Hedley Lamarr said: does that get expanded to a diamond formation to 5 wide in the same personal group - always enjoyed 4 in the backfield Quote Link to comment
DefenderAO Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, suh_fan93 said: If Wandale can be 70%-80% of Thomas the West is in major trouble Quote Link to comment
swmohusker Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, DefenderAO said: If Wandale can be 70%-80% of Thomas the West is in major trouble Then I guess you can say that the rest of the West is in major trouble. Quote Link to comment
NoLongerN Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I prefer Thomas to be 80% of Wandale! Get that "stinkin' thinking" out of your head! Quote Link to comment
DefenderAO Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 39 minutes ago, BigRedN said: I prefer Thomas to be 80% of Wandale! Get that "stinkin' thinking" out of your head! How's Wandale's top end speed? That's what set DAT apart from other shifty guys. Many times you get one o the other; rare to package quicks and speed. Quote Link to comment
swmohusker Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, DefenderAO said: How's Wandale's top end speed? That's what set DAT apart from other shifty guys. Many times you get one o the other; rare to package quicks and speed. I don't think Wandale has the top end speed of DAT, but I think he has better acceleration and lateral movement. DAT was pretty thin and narrow, while Wandale has a thick, sturdy frame. The way Rahmir Johnson runs reminds me more of DAT than Wandale does. 2 Quote Link to comment
AlaSker Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, swmohusker said: I don't think Wandale has the top end speed of DAT, but I think he has better acceleration and lateral movement. DAT was pretty thin and narrow, while Wandale has a thick, sturdy frame. The way Rahmir Johnson runs reminds me more of DAT than Wandale does. I have been thinking the same thing since Johnson committed. Quote Link to comment
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