QMany Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 Fox News is basically The Onion. 1 Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, QMany said: Fox News is basically The Onion. Ah yes the humanity he shows by ***checks notes*** encouraging China to go forward with concentration camps for Muslims. He's a modern day Gandhi. 1 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hard to either cheer or blame Bolton. He actually did speak up at the time, at least in the form of planned leaks that let everyone know Bolton was not happy with the President's decisions. The feud between Bolton and Pompeo was common knowledge. He quit very publicly, yet another conservative who couldn't abide Trump's incompetence and chaos. Bolton was willing to spill the beans during the impeachment hearings -- when it mattered most -- but the House didn't wait for Bolton's clearance and the Senate decided not to allow witnesses. On the other hand, Bolton's biggest problem with Trump was that the President lacked the discipline to be the dangerous warmonger he wanted. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, knapplc said: Good point. Oh....that's a very good point. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Bolton was willing to spill the beans during the impeachment hearings -- when it mattered most -- but the House didn't wait for Bolton's clearance and the Senate decided not to allow witnesses. I'm not sure it's fair to give Bolton the benefit of the doubt with this characterization. He was threatening to sue if subpoenaed but the House and tie the thing up in court but was willing to comply with a Senate subpoena which he knew would never be issued. In other words a worthless pledge. I appreciate his speaking out NOW - better late than never - but his primary motivate seems most likely to be holding out because he thought he could monetize this either directly (through book sales) or later via speaking fees. Which, one one hand seems selfish and on the other completely, utterly human. Whatever. Maybe all of this being dredged up now ultimately hurts Trump more. Particularly if the House issues a subpoena NOW. 2 Link to comment
QMany Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Bolton was willing to spill the beans during the impeachment hearings -- when it mattered most -- but the House didn't wait for Bolton's clearance He threatened to sue. It would have taken months if not years through the courts. He wasn’t willing. He could have shown up just like his aides did. 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 19 hours ago, Danny Bateman said: I'm not sure it's fair to give Bolton the benefit of the doubt with this characterization. He was threatening to sue if subpoenaed but the House and tie the thing up in court but was willing to comply with a Senate subpoena which he knew would never be issued. In other words a worthless pledge. I appreciate his speaking out NOW - better late than never - but his primary motivate seems most likely to be holding out because he thought he could monetize this either directly (through book sales) or later via speaking fees. Which, one one hand seems selfish and on the other completely, utterly human. Whatever. Maybe all of this being dredged up now ultimately hurts Trump more. Particularly if the House issues a subpoena NOW. This is all true. Bolton doesn't deserve the benefit of any doubt. The timing of Bolton's revelations last fall were definitely designed to hurt Trump and promote his book. Bolton had clearly cast his lot, knowing his future as a conservative commentator, Fox guest and AIPAC speaker was over. But I wonder if he worried about being a savior to the liberals he truly despised, and/or whether Congressional testimony would undermine book sales. 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 And the book is likely to be released. Link to comment
teachercd Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 You would think Trump would stop giving this dude all this free press (Especially since he is against free press ha). 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Since advance copies are in the hands of reviewers and information is being disseminated right now, it's game on. Link to comment
teachercd Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Any of you guys buying that book? Link to comment
funhusker Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, teachercd said: Any of you guys buying that book? I'll wait for the movie. Then remember I don't go to the movies. In the end, I'll probably just look up the plot on Wiki just to know what the kids are talking about... 1 2 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, teachercd said: Any of you guys buying that book? I'll read the Cliff notes. I only read nerdy books about people who save the world with their sword fighting skills. 2 Link to comment
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