FrantzHardySwag Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Not all of them As a whole they did very poor, but I'm sure there we're many who saved lives and made sure a bad situation wasn't even worse. You're right. 3 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, knapplc said: What is the point of the U.S. domestic surveillance program under the NSA if they 1) didn't see this coming, or 2) saw it coming and didn't stop it? Heads should roll for this along several levels of government. Entire departments may need to be excised from the IC. This is either a colossal failure or tacit permission. There's really no gray area here. I was told on this board in the past that the IC is always totally reliable and should never be questioned. 2 Link to comment
commando Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Not all of them in this case....i would have supported the police using deadly force to save their fellow officer. 2 Link to comment
SECHusker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 After all this, how do we address foreign policy? How do we stand up for democracy and free elections around the world? Trump and his accolytes ruined us as the beacon of democracy, and what fledgling countries should aspire to be. American exceptionalism is gone. 2 1 Link to comment
Ulty Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, SECHusker said: After all this, how do we address foreign policy? How do we stand up for democracy and free elections around the world? Bingo. This is just one of the many harms caused by this mess. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 the mess trump has created will take a generation or more to fix. he and the far right propaganda machine has created an american monster that will outlive trump. Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: I was told on this board in the past that the IC is always totally reliable and should never be questioned. No, you weren't. You just had a mini rant about how people shouldn't use absolutes. The hypocrisy is glaring. 3 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: I was told on this board in the past that the IC is always totally reliable and should never be questioned. Post the quote for us. Link to comment
SECHusker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 https://www.adn.com/politics/2021/01/08/alaska-sen-lisa-murkowski-calls-on-president-trump-to-resign-questions-her-future-as-a-republican/ 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, SECHusker said: https://www.adn.com/politics/2021/01/08/alaska-sen-lisa-murkowski-calls-on-president-trump-to-resign-questions-her-future-as-a-republican/ Empty words. Should have voted him out when you had the chance Lisa! 4 Link to comment
SECHusker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Empty words. Should have voted him out when you had the chance Lisa! She should have voted him out, but it is a step. And if she wants to do right from here-on, I won't stand in her way. 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, SECHusker said: She should have voted him out, but it is a step. And if she wants to do right from here-on, I won't stand in her way. Yea its so great it took this for her to come to her senses. She and her colleagues have enabled this and are directly responsible for everything Trump has done post impeachment. This is on her too so I could care less for her bloviating. Get out of politics all together then maybe I'll give her some credit. Otherwise put those words where the sun don't shine because they are meaningless. This oh they are saying the right thing now so we should acknowledge it crap is just that. Crap. You can't just take it all back now. The past 4 years have consequences 2 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, SECHusker said: She should have voted him out, but it is a step. And if she wants to do right from here-on, I won't stand in her way. 1 Link to comment
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