r06ue1 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: The fact that we ran the ball a lot doesn't mean there weren't a lot of variations on the theme, and they were very much execution driven. Which is all I am asking for, a 'run the ball a lot' offense. There are a lot of variations on the triple option; the classics, wishbone, veer, i, and the newer versions ran by Paul Johnson, Urban Meyer, Ken Niumatalolo out of different formations. RPO is also considered a triple option offense. 1 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, r06ue1 said: Which is all I am asking for, a 'run the ball a lot' offense. There are a lot of variations on the triple option; the classics, wishbone, veer, i, and the newer versions ran by Paul Johnson, Urban Meyer, Ken Niumatalolo out of different formations. RPO is also considered a triple option offense. We've ran the ball 57% of the time this year. 5 Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, ZRod said: We've ran the ball 57% of the time this year. I think what he meant to say was actually be good at it. 1 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said: I think what he meant to say was actually be good at it. Which is an entirely different discussion than an offensive philosophy. 3 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Throw the damn ball! 50-50 wouldn't be too bad though. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Huskers93-97 said: I think what he meant to say was actually be good at it. Well as soon as we start winning, nobody's going to care about the run/pass ratio. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Brandon.Lincoln Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 What Frost should and will do are likely two different things. Since OP asked, I would build the offensive scheme as follows: QB - preference on decision making and throwing from under center over running ability (running QB's don't survive seasons in the B1G and coach's with running QB's don't survive in the B1G), accurate (ball is where it is suppose to be, when it is suppose to be there), pocket presence (keeps plays alive with feet but continues to look downfield to throw), quick release, commands huddle, read defenses and make adjustments, leader, captain (sets standards, prepares team before game, holds guys accountable), short stop throwing ability (can make throws when the pocket is not clean) RB - versatile skill set (physicality, power, vision, ball security, pass block, route running and catching valued over straight-line top end, undersized track-speed) LT - pass blocking blind-side first, outside run blocking second, blocking in more open space/on the move, footwork, bend, length LG - strength (starting with footwork to win leverage) to dominate one-on-one's (lead blocking for running and pocket blocking for passing), defender is less likely to shed the initial block, can stand up to bull-rush, lead blocking C - leader, intelligent, makes adjustments based on how the defense (in particular the DL and LB's) aligns themselves, sets the tone (not a TE captain getting flags in key moments who is still unable to snap the ball), versatile blocker with few weaknesses rather than high's in some areas and low's in others, strength, consistency, reliable RG - strength (starting with footwork to win leverage) to dominate one-on-one's (lead blocking for running and pocket blocking for passing), defender is less likely to shed the initial block, run pulling, lead blocking RT - run blocking bulldozer at the line of scrimmage first, pass blocking second, size, nastiness (but in a sportsmanship way) TE - the true dual threat who can block AND catch (block like a tackle and run routes & catch like a possession receiver) https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/omari-murdock-254870 WR X - consistently beat one-on-one coverage for gains, big and strong to beat jams at the line of scrimmage and take advantage of corners doing so during run blocking, use body to box out defenders to create a target ("win a rebound"), catch radius, red zone target (high points fades), fights for extra yards, tough to bring down https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/jackson-fields-268953 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/chance-morrow-275055 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/anthony-black-257739 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/alex-perry-274211 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/will-futhey-269847 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/mekhi-collins-268908 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/noah-thomas-271218 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/dakota-twitty-253402 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/omari-murdock-254870 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/wyatt-sullivan-273114 WR Y (slot) - ability to create separation with quick bursts, quickness is more important than deep speed, catch in traffic/over the middle, can take a hit, smart (knows and takes what is needed on each play to keep drives alive rather than gambling for big plays), tough, gritty, "too small, undersized" (plays with chip on shoulder) https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/victor-rosa-270431 WR Z - deep threat, route running, stretches the safties, "center field" catching ability (high, deep balls), willing run blocker FB/HB - lead run blocking, blocking in more open space/on the move, running between the tackles, break tackles, truck defenders, catch short passes out of backfield https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/mikal-legall-234868 https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/c-j-miller-273609 https://www.hudl.com/profile/8103282/Yann-Longa-Ulrich https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/tayson-reid-272631 2 2 Quote Link to comment
desertshox Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Well as soon as we start winning, nobody's going to care about the run/pass ratio. If they aren't running 99-99.9% of the time then they are throwing the ball too darn much. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
floridacorn Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, Brandon.Lincoln said: QB - preference on decision making and throwing from under center over running ability (running QB's don't survive seasons in the B1G and coach's with running QB's don't survive in the B1G) RB - physicality, power, ball security, pass block, route running and catching over top end, undersized track-speed LT - pass blocking blind-side first, outside run blocking second, footwork, bend, length LG - strength (starting with footwork to win leverage) to dominate one-on-one's (lead blocking for running and pocket blocking for passing) C - leader, intelligent, makes adjustments based on how the defense (in particular the DL and LB's) aligns themselves, sets the tone (not a TE captain getting flags in key moments who is still unable to snap the ball), versatile blocker with few weaknesses rather than high's in some areas and low's in others, strength, consistency, reliable RG - strength (starting with footwork to win leverage) to dominate one-on-one's (lead blocking for running and pocket blocking for passing) RT - run blocking bulldozer first, pass blocking second, size, nastiness (but in a sportsmanship way) TE - true dual threat who can block AND catch (block like a tackle and run routes like a possession receiver) WR X - consistently beat one-on-one coverage for gains, big and strong to beat jams and take advantage of corners doing so during run blocking, use body to box out defenders to "win a rebound", red zone target (high points fades) WR Y (slot) - ability to create separation with quick bursts, quickness is more important than deep speed, catch in traffic/over the middle, can take a hit, smart (knows what is needed on each play to keep drives alive) WR Z - deep threat, route running, "center field" catching ability (high, deep balls), willing run blocker LET'S GO BRANDON 2 1 Quote Link to comment
thexyz Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, floridacorn said: LET'S GO BRANDON Forgot kicking, punting, special teams play... 1 Quote Link to comment
Born N Bled Red Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Brandon.Lincoln said: For Scott: QB - preference on decision making and throwing from under center over running ability (running QB's don't survive seasons in the B1G and coach's with running QB's don't survive in the B1G), accurate (ball is where it is suppose to be, when it is suppose to be there), pocket presence (keeps plays alive with feet but continues to look downfield to throw), quick release, commands huddle, read defenses and make adjustments, leader, captain (sets standards, prepares team before game, holds guys accountable) RB - versatile (physicality, power, vision, ball security, pass block, route running and catching valued over top end, undersized track-speed) LT - pass blocking blind-side first, outside run blocking second, blocking in more open space/on the move, footwork, bend, length LG - strength (starting with footwork to win leverage) to dominate one-on-one's (lead blocking for running and pocket blocking for passing), defender is less likely to shed the initial block, lead blocking C - leader, intelligent, makes adjustments based on how the defense (in particular the DL and LB's) aligns themselves, sets the tone (not a TE captain getting flags in key moments who is still unable to snap the ball), versatile blocker with few weaknesses rather than high's in some areas and low's in others, strength, consistency, reliable RG - strength (starting with footwork to win leverage) to dominate one-on-one's (lead blocking for running and pocket blocking for passing), defender is less likely to shed the initial block, lead blocking RT - run blocking bulldozer at the line of scrimmage first, pass blocking second, size, nastiness (but in a sportsmanship way) TE - true dual threat who can block AND catch (block like a tackle and run routes & catch like a possession receiver) WR X - consistently beat one-on-one coverage for gains, big and strong to beat jams and take advantage of corners doing so during run blocking, use body to box out defenders to "win a rebound", red zone target (high points fades) WR Y (slot) - ability to create separation with quick bursts, quickness is more important than deep speed, catch in traffic/over the middle, can take a hit, smart (knows and takes what is needed on each play to keep drives alive rather than gambling for big plays) WR Z - deep threat, route running, "center field" catching ability (high, deep balls), willing run blocker FB/HB - lead run blocking, blocking in more open space/on the move, running between the tackles, break tackles, truck defenders, catch short passes out of backfield Wtf is this?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, Born N Bled Red said: Wtf is this?? A cry for help. Quote Link to comment
Brandon.Lincoln Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 hours ago, M.A. said: Forgot kicking, punting, special teams play... This thread only asked for offense. 1 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 hours ago, Born N Bled Red said: Wtf is this?? I think it is a audition for the O C position 1 Quote Link to comment
Brandon.Lincoln Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: A cry for help. Better than saying something generic like "spread," "option" or "power" considering there are many variations on those general schemes. OP and I came here to discuss football; you came here to be a hater. 2 Quote Link to comment
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