Who should our next HC be?

[TGHusker]

2 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Again, I don't have a strong opinion on one or two specific coaches, but I am trying to think about this realistically and pragmatically.  Here would be my thoughts on what the next head coach should bring to the table:

• Experienced head coach with a track record of a winning program (not high on first-time head coaches who would be learning on the job)
• A head coach who is familiar with the Big Ten -- I know I make fun of the Big Ten teams plenty for their boring games and the lack of success outside of the conference, but the first step for NU to get back to a winning program, starts with having success in the Big Ten.  I know NU fans have grand thoughts of competing nationally, but the first step is within the division and then conference
• A head coach who can recruit locally/regionally for the guys in the trenches, and then develop them.  This goes in alignment with the previous thought, but there should be plenty of guys available in the 500-mile radius of Lincoln who can fit what needs to be successful offensive and defensive linemen.  I have seen some people saying that NU needs to recruit nationally, and that is true to an extent.  NU needs to build the program with regional talent and then go from there.  We don't need Calibraska, or the Florida pipeline to be the base of the recruiting area, especially with free transfers now.
• A head coach who will hire a diverse staff with different skills and abilities.  Having a stud recruiter (Mickey Joseph-type) or two who can go grab stud skill players from the South, Texas, or other areas known for speed.  We have also seen head coaches who have brought a lot of their previous staff or friends to fill out the staff.  I would hope that the next head coach would be trying to bring in the best group of assistants that he can find.  I know some of them will probably have worked with the head coach in the past, but it shouldn't have to be a requirement
• A head coach who is going to own coaching the full team.  I don't care if the guy will have offense or defense experience, but I don't want the coach to be calling the plays for the offense or defense.  I want him to be the over-seer of the entire program, not just one side of the ball.
• A head coach who doesn't bring extra drama or concerns to the athletic department.  Basically, I just want a guy who is going to be a professional, and not an embarrassment to the University

Good list.  I think more and more it will be someone with upper Midwest experience  - who knows the 500 mile recruiting terrain & the type of play that is needed in the Big 10.  Thus the coaches from ISU, KU, Cinci are the most realistic - possibly KSU- but the loss to Tulane wasn't good for KSU. (my KSU fanatic friend was complaining about AM - I said: I told you so.). Outside of those coaches - then maybe O'Brien who knows the Big 10 from his PSU days. 

I'm concern about a P5 coach moving up - if they haven't experienced the pressure of P5 coaching.  A few however could be good having proven themselves in the current schools - coaches from West Point, Air Force, Coastal Carolina - I would prefer them over a DC or OC being the new coach.  Yes, O'Brien is currently Bama's OC but he has HC experience at PSU and in the NFL.  

 

I'm lowering/tempering my expectations from a major big name (Urban Meyer, Chris Peterson,  Vince Lombardi) to some one like Campbell - a slow, plodding builder.  NU has been traumatized enough - we don't need the excitement of hiring a Meyer only to fail in our expectations of not getting the NC in 3 years.  

 

[TGHusker]

9 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I am sure Urban is already thinking the girls in Phoenix are hotter than the girls in Lincoln.

Que the Beach Boys

 

[ColoradoHusk]

19 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

I'm lowering/tempering my expectations from a major big name (Urban Meyer, Chris Peterson,  Vince Lombardi) to some one like Campbell - a slow, plodding builder.  NU has been traumatized enough - we don't need the excitement of hiring a Meyer only to fail in our expectations of not getting the NC in 3 years.  

 

I understand the allure of Urban Meyer, I really do.  He's won at every college stop in his career, and he's done it quickly.  Part of me would love to have that guarantee of a quick turnaround at NU, even if it's just for short time.  I just don't think the situation at NU is a "quick fix" regardless of Urban's history, and the Nebraska job is nothing like Florida or Ohio State.  I honestly think the odds of Urban being a big winner at NU is the same as him flaming out within 1-year.  If I am Trev, and I'm looking to build a long-term program, I would look outside Urban.

 

Petersen is an intriguing name, but his success was at West Coast schools, and who knows if he would want the grind of a program rebuild in an unfamiliar place.

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

13 hours ago, funhusker said:

That seems like a really small pool to get recruits from...

 

Agreed. Just saying if that's the route Trev wants to take... (I doubt that it is)

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

3 hours ago, TGHusker said:

Campbell - a slow, plodding builder.

 

As long as you're happy with a ceiling of 7-8 wins a season

[Hayseed]

The coach should be Mickey Joseph. If Alberts was intending to just name an interim he should've named old man Whipple who would've been happy to stock up his retirement with our never-ending supply of money . It doesn't make much sense to sabotage the first black Husker coach with an almost impossible task and then toss him out at the end of the season for some neighbor coach with an okay record. Maybe we should just be looking for a qualified DC. I can see this becoming even more of a disaster.

[ColoradoHusk]

1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

As long as you're happy with a ceiling of 7-8 wins a season

I don’t think that’s the ceiling with a guy like Campbell.

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

21 hours ago, whateveritis1224 said:

Immediately improved Buffalo

 

 

Year prior: 5-6

 

Year 1: 5-7

Year 2: 2-10

Year 3: 6-6

Year 4: 10-4

Year 5: 8-5

Year 6: 6-1

 

I'd hardly call that immediate improvement. Not to mention they lost to any team with a pulse. The year they had 10 wins, the teams they beat had a combined record of 42-80. They got blown out by Army 42-13, Ohio 52-17, and also had losses to Northern Illinois and Troy. No thanks!

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

21 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I don’t think that’s the ceiling with a guy like Campbell.

 

Not sure why. He's 44-34 in the Big 12, with 1 9-win season in Ames. Color me unimpressed.

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

8 hours ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:

He's my #2 choice behind Urban. He's exactly what Nebraska needs.

 

Deion and Nebraska are pretty much polar opposites. Nebraska fans are too conservative to handle his flash and flamboyance. They want plain vanilla. 

[ColoradoHusk]

12 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Not sure why. He's 44-34 in the Big 12, with 1 9-win season in Ames. 

I do have concerns about Campbell, especially as his teams will have as many puzzling losses as they do have great wins. However, Iowa State has never been a consistent winner until Campbell got there, so he deserves credit for building that.  There have been seasons here and there where Iowa State has been decent, but not with the consistency under Campbell.  I think Campbell could bring the consistency to Lincoln, with the potential of having a solid upside. 

[Stone Cold]

15 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Not sure why. He's 44-34 in the Big 12, with 1 9-win season in Ames. 

This.........Im sure hes a great coach but i dont think that is what this team needs.  Hold on, ill rephrase that.  I think that would be good for the team but its not what this university needs.  If urban came in here for 3 years, brought in his guys who he knows can do what needs to be done here then leaves us with someone he knows can keep the ball rolling with.  Then were good.

[huskerfan99]

13 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Not sure why. He's 44-34 in the Big 12, with 1 9-win season in Ames. 

It doesn’t mean it’s gonna be a carbon copy of Iowa St. if he came here. That argument is just lame. 
 

He could be better and could be worse here. Tons of variables go into that, but you can’t just say it’s gonna be a complete copy of what he did at Iowa St.

Les Miles and Nick Saban did just a tad better than they did at Oklahoma St. and Michigan St.

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

Just now, ColoradoHusk said:

I do have concerns about Campbell, especially as his teams will have as many puzzling losses as they do have great wins. However, Iowa State has never been a consistent winner until Campbell got there, so he deserves credit for building that.  There have been seasons here and there where Iowa State has been decent, but not with the consistency under Campbell.  I think Campbell could bring the consistency to Lincoln, with the potential of having a solid upside. 

 

I don't see him having any edge over Fleck or Brohm or any other coach in the West. He's no better than any of them.

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

1 minute ago, Stone Cold said:

This.........Im sure hes a great coach but i dont think that is what this team needs.  Hold on, ill rephrase that.  I think that would be good for the team but its not what this university needs.  If urban came in here for 3 years, brought in his guys who he knows can do what needs to be done here then leaves us with someone he knows can keep the ball rolling with.  Then were good.

 

God forbid anyone have high expectations. For the life of me I can't figure out why people want some run-of-the-mill middle-of-the-road bland coach who won't be able to recruit anyone special to Lincoln. It'll be a never-ending cycle of primarily 3* guys with the "stars don't matter" mentality while we continue to spin our tires and get absolutely nowhere.