Kenny Bell and NCAA Reform

[StPaulHusker]

Thats not even the point. They aren't an employee. So it doesn't really matter. We shouldn't be handing out money for kids to spend recklessly. What does that teach them at probably their most important time of their lives?

There are people that would disagree with you that they are not employees. That is why this union mess is where it is at right now. It's going to come down to a judge to decide this and if they rule against it, it's not because they are worried that the players will be irresponsible with the money.

 

BUT...they are already considered employees to some because the university pays them through scholarship. The one way that the NCAA and Universities could and SHOULD combat this is threatening taking away scholarships completely. Then what? Kids still have to go to school to get a decent job. Its not like the universities really need athletics. Seriously.

 

Don't tell me that the revenue from football is used for anything other than improving facilities and amenities for athletes. You take that all away and the university will become what it was originally instituted for. Academia.

I am fully aware that athletic money funds athletic ventures. And I agree with you that the universities have a much stronger card to play by revoking scholarships altogether. The question remains if they are willing to stop sucking on the tit of shoe deals, tv deals, bowl game deals, etc. My money is on no and they will end up giving something more to the players. Regardless if the popular opinion is that they don't need any more.

[BigRedBuster]

But those shoe deals, TV deals...etc are money that goes to stuff for the athletes.

 

They are going to kill the golden egg that pays for all the nice stuff they love.

[StPaulHusker]

But those shoe deals, TV deals...etc are money that goes to stuff for the athletes.

 

They are going to kill the golden egg that pays for all the nice stuff they love.

You are correct on the first part but then again these schools and conferences will just negotiate for more from these places to offset the extra costs. Matter of fact, they will negotiate for more regardless of any rulings or outcomes from this situation.

[Army_Allen]

But those shoe deals, TV deals...etc are money that goes to stuff for the athletes.

 

They are going to kill the golden egg that pays for all the nice stuff they love.

You are correct on the first part but then again these schools and conferences will just negotiate for more from these places to offset the extra costs. Matter of fact, they will negotiate for more regardless of any rulings or outcomes from this situation.

I just can't see where that's feasible because you and I both know not every school is going to be able to do this, even some d1 schools. And just like title IX, there's gotta be some semblance of a check and balance system to ensure schools can actually field a team.

[Blackshirt316]

According to Kenny's statements on the radio the other day, he doesn't think student/athletes should receive a salary or get paid for things like jersey sales and the like. He said that talks regarding a Union aren't financially based, they are about having a voice at the university... IF this is the case, I don't know if Kenny is misinformed or uninformed or what but the simple fact of the matter is, they ALREADY have a voice at Nebraska with the SAAC.

 

Nebraska's Student Athlete Advisory Committee (SAAC) was implemented in 1987 to ensure that student-athletes have a voice regarding their total student-athlete experience. SAAC is a recognized student organization at the University of Nebraska and consists of at least one team appointed representative from each of Nebraska's 24 intercollegiate teams. SAAC meets bi-weekly throughout the academic year, communicating directly with Director of Athletics, Shawn Eichorst on various student-athlete welfare issues as well as Life Skills Coordinator, Jessie Gardner whom serves as the SAAC's faculty advisor.. SAAC also coordinates a number of events within the athletic department and in the community of Lincoln to promote the importance of education, service and responsible decision making. Nebraska's SAAC has been recognized across the country as one of the most comprehensive, consistent and productive in the country.

 

 

The SAAC has a leadership board elected by the student-athletes -

For the 2013-2014 academic year, SAAC will be led by President Sunny Russell (Rifle), with support from Ryan Grassel (Men's Golf) as the Vice President. Mattie Fowler (Softball) will function as the Big Ten Representative and Jake Griess (Track & Field) will serve as the Community Outreach officer.

 

And each individual Sport elects it's own representatives to the committee. Currently the representatives for the football team are Sam Burch, Trey Foster, Graham Nabity and Johnny Stanton.

 

 

Maybe Northwestern doesn't have anything that gives their student-athletes a voice and a union was a way to get one.. but at Nebraska the student-athletes already have that voice, and have had one for nearly half a century. As far as at the school level a Union isn't going to give you anything that the SAAC doesn't already provide... the national level may be a different story if unionization becomes widespread and IF that becomes the case then it may make sense at that juncture to look at folding the SAAC into a Union structure, but right now it's at an individual school level only and Nebraska makes absolutely ZERO sense as a testing ground for unionization at the individual school level, if anything a union forming this early in the process may actually be a step backwards in terms of student-athlete rights here.

[Scratchtown]

According to Kenny's statements on the radio the other day, he doesn't think student/athletes should receive a salary or get paid for things like jersey sales and the like. He said that talks regarding a Union aren't financially based, they are about having a voice at the university... IF this is the case, I don't know if Kenny is misinformed or uninformed or what but the simple fact of the matter is, they ALREADY have a voice at Nebraska with the SAAC.

 

Nebraska's Student Athlete Advisory Committee (SAAC) was implemented in 1987 to ensure that student-athletes have a voice regarding their total student-athlete experience. SAAC is a recognized student organization at the University of Nebraska and consists of at least one team appointed representative from each of Nebraska's 24 intercollegiate teams. SAAC meets bi-weekly throughout the academic year, communicating directly with Director of Athletics, Shawn Eichorst on various student-athlete welfare issues as well as Life Skills Coordinator, Jessie Gardner whom serves as the SAAC's faculty advisor.. SAAC also coordinates a number of events within the athletic department and in the community of Lincoln to promote the importance of education, service and responsible decision making. Nebraska's SAAC has been recognized across the country as one of the most comprehensive, consistent and productive in the country.

 

 

The SAAC has a leadership board elected by the student-athletes -

For the 2013-2014 academic year, SAAC will be led by President Sunny Russell (Rifle), with support from Ryan Grassel (Men's Golf) as the Vice President. Mattie Fowler (Softball) will function as the Big Ten Representative and Jake Griess (Track & Field) will serve as the Community Outreach officer.

 

And each individual Sport elects it's own representatives to the committee. Currently the representatives for the football team are Sam Burch, Trey Foster, Graham Nabity and Johnny Stanton.

 

 

Maybe Northwestern doesn't have anything that gives their student-athletes a voice and a union was a way to get one.. but at Nebraska the student-athletes already have that voice, and have had one for nearly half a century. As far as at the school level a Union isn't going to give you anything that the SAAC doesn't already provide... the national level may be a different story if unionization becomes widespread and IF that becomes the case then it may make sense at that juncture to look at folding the SAAC into a Union structure, but right now it's at an individual school level only and Nebraska makes absolutely ZERO sense as a testing ground for unionization at the individual school level, if anything a union forming this early in the process may actually be a step backwards in terms of student-athlete rights here.

 

The kids know its about money. It always is and will be.

[Micheal]

What is interesting to me is that it isn't the guys walking on that are making a fuss it's the guys with full ride scholarships, who get room, board, tuition, plus all the normal free gear. If they want to be considered an employee get ready to be considered to be fired when you don't meet performance levels.

[The Dude]

I remember a couple years back Kenny writing something on facebook along the lines of "anyone who thinks college football players shouldn't get payed needs to get slapped".

 

It kind of makes it difficult for me to take his statements up there at face value.

[BigRedBuster]

But those shoe deals, TV deals...etc are money that goes to stuff for the athletes.

 

They are going to kill the golden egg that pays for all the nice stuff they love.

You are correct on the first part but then again these schools and conferences will just negotiate for more from these places to offset the extra costs. Matter of fact, they will negotiate for more regardless of any rulings or outcomes from this situation.

There are lots of unemployed people who thought the same thing about their employers.

[walksalone]

Great, this will lead to some douchebag high school student thinking they should be unionized and paid for attending high school...

[zoogs]

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Derpy ‏@OlDerpy 3m

@AFRO_THUNDER80 not everyone can afford HBO. I'll be watching it illegally tomorrow once links are up...

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Kenny Bell ‏@AFRO_THUNDER80

@OlDerpy it's 2014. If no one you know has access to an hbo go account, u need a new group of friends brother

 

Oooo. Harsh.

[StPaulHusker]

But those shoe deals, TV deals...etc are money that goes to stuff for the athletes.

 

They are going to kill the golden egg that pays for all the nice stuff they love.

You are correct on the first part but then again these schools and conferences will just negotiate for more from these places to offset the extra costs. Matter of fact, they will negotiate for more regardless of any rulings or outcomes from this situation.

There are lots of unemployed people who thought the same thing about their employers.

Not in athletics there isn't.

[Junior]

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Derpy ‏@OlDerpy 3m

@AFRO_THUNDER80 not everyone can afford HBO. I'll be watching it illegally tomorrow once links are up...

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Kenny Bell ‏@AFRO_THUNDER80

@OlDerpy it's 2014. If no one you know has access to an hbo go account, u need a new group of friends brother

 

Oooo. Harsh.

 

So, Kenny Bell is kind of turning out to be unlikable.

[ShawnWatson]

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Derpy ‏@OlDerpy 3m

@AFRO_THUNDER80 not everyone can afford HBO. I'll be watching it illegally tomorrow once links are up...

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Kenny Bell ‏@AFRO_THUNDER80

@OlDerpy it's 2014. If no one you know has access to an hbo go account, u need a new group of friends brother

 

Oooo. Harsh.

 

So, Kenny Bell is kind of turning out to be unlikable.

 

He really needs to stop twittering. It is not doing himself any favors.

[BigRedBuster]

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Derpy ‏@OlDerpy 3m

@AFRO_THUNDER80 not everyone can afford HBO. I'll be watching it illegally tomorrow once links are up...

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Kenny Bell ‏@AFRO_THUNDER80

@OlDerpy it's 2014. If no one you know has access to an hbo go account, u need a new group of friends brother

 

Oooo. Harsh.

 

So, Kenny Bell is kind of turning out to be unlikable.

 

He really needs to stop twittering. It is not doing himself any favors.

 

 

He is a great guy that I love watching play football and I'm glad he plays for the Huskers.

 

However, he has a great out going personality, is in the position that gives him the opportunity to voice his opinions and lots of people listen and his frontal lobe isn't fully developed.

 

That can be an awkward combination sometimes.