Danny Bateman Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 As far as the minority of fans who still compare Bo and TO goes, here's what you need to know about them. You remember what got Tom to turn the corner and win his championships? He made a philosophical change to his defensive scheme, putting safeties at LB and linebackers along the DL to get more speed on the field. And they terrorized offenses that decade. What we have now is a coach who is too stubborn to change his scheme even facing Wisconsin when it was universally agreed by smart football minds we should've. Pretty dang different, no? Quote Link to comment
Kruzu Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 So I voted for a new HC. I've more or les been there since 2012 CCG. As I side note that fits into this thread as well as any, I realized recently I've made progressively fewer game day plans over the last few years, because it's too much effort (on meaningful games you'd make s fuss about) to always lose and be pissed. Quote Link to comment
Frustrated Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We need to stop bashing Pelini. He is successful as hell. The Nebraska tradition is to be excellent and support our team. We have lost our way. Quote Link to comment
Kruzu Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 ^^loving this guy^^ keep the hits coming "Frusty" Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Lets face it...a new coach will make the "search" and spring game very exciting... But, lets face it...its not like its going to be some 12-1 year. Also...Bartons Vodka is very very cheap and I am not even sure if it is vodka...it might be paint thinner Well again, a 9-4 season would be fine, especially a first year coach, if the losses are competitive and we look competent, and we improve throughout the year. This what has Bo gone. Stagnant is a stretch at this point. And I still have to disagree anyway. There's a lot of talent on this team. The right guy could have us right there. Goes back to that old deal I've been sayin. Even Callahan could win us 9 to 10 games in this conference. I've said this elsewhere...but if Callahan had replaced Cosgrove and anyone else failing in their defensive coaching responsibilities...he'd probably still be our coach. Quote Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 I've said this elsewhere...but if Callahan had replaced Cosgrove and anyone else failing in their defensive coaching responsibilities...he'd probably still be our coach.Gotta disagree here. He certainly would've been capable. Hell, even TO, for as fantastic a motivator, HC, and offensive playcaller as he was, left the D totally for McBride (God, it feels so dirty and wrong to even hint at comparing TO and Cally!). I just don't think Cally was happy in the NCAA. He's an NFL guy at heart. I think Bo probably could do well if given a fantastic OC. I personally voted B1G champs for his ceiling as a HC, if he got a McBride-esque OC that could handle that whole side of the ball WELL. I just don't want to go through the growing pains of grooming a new offense under Bo. There's been so many tough losses and so much controversy, I feel a new chapter is in everyone's best interest. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNBigD Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We need to stop bashing Pelini. He is successful as hell. The Nebraska tradition is to be excellent and support our team. We have lost our way. Remind me of his record against top 25 teams? Anything below .500 should not be counted as "successful as hell". Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 In the OP, I'm assuming "CHAMPIONSHIP" (where we want it to be) is a national championship. I'm probably as favorable of Bo as anyone on HB, but I don't think Bo has a MNC in him. His gameday style of coaching is like a turtle. Flip it on it's back, and the game is over. No real time game adjustments at all. Someone like Saban would eat Bo's lunch if they ever met in a big game. Heck, someone like Bienema would (and did) eat Bo's lunch. Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Dave Feit has a comprehensive survey over on the Huskermax front page if you're interested. It breaks everything down pretty well instead of just asking a couple big questions....like a real survey would. Anyone is welcome to take it. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 It was about this time last year we were having this same debate, and I would say there was a 50/50 split between the pro-Bo and anti-Bo crowd. My what a difference a year makes. It looks like many supporting Bo last year have seen the light and had enough. 1 Quote Link to comment
SWAMI Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This is really the key to dumping Bo. There is fear out there about us dumping a winning coach. We'll get the negative PR at first for dumping a 9 win coach but the bottomline is that Bo has not won any conference championships while here. It is not that difficult to get that message out and get a new face for the program that is more likeable to boot. Bo was hired to win conference championships and that has not happened. If you apply that same standard to programs considered to be college football elite, then it makes a lot of sense why we need new leadership and direction. #ControlTheMessage We won't get a bit of backlash if we let Bobo go to the dunk tank. Everyone expected it last year after that Iowa tirade. Quote Link to comment
SWAMI Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I've said this elsewhere...but if Callahan had replaced Cosgrove and anyone else failing in their defensive coaching responsibilities...he'd probably still be our coach.Gotta disagree here. He certainly would've been capable. Hell, even TO, for as fantastic a motivator, HC, and offensive playcaller as he was, left the D totally for McBride (God, it feels so dirty and wrong to even hint at comparing TO and Cally!). I just don't think Cally was happy in the NCAA. He's an NFL guy at heart. I think Bo probably could do well if given a fantastic OC. I personally voted B1G champs for his ceiling as a HC, if he got a McBride-esque OC that could handle that whole side of the ball WELL. I just don't want to go through the growing pains of grooming a new offense under Bo. There's been so many tough losses and so much controversy, I feel a new chapter is in everyone's best interest. What? Callahan created this whole mess. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I've said this elsewhere...but if Callahan had replaced Cosgrove and anyone else failing in their defensive coaching responsibilities...he'd probably still be our coach.Gotta disagree here. He certainly would've been capable. Hell, even TO, for as fantastic a motivator, HC, and offensive playcaller as he was, left the D totally for McBride (God, it feels so dirty and wrong to even hint at comparing TO and Cally!). I just don't think Cally was happy in the NCAA. He's an NFL guy at heart. I think Bo probably could do well if given a fantastic OC. I personally voted B1G champs for his ceiling as a HC, if he got a McBride-esque OC that could handle that whole side of the ball WELL. I just don't want to go through the growing pains of grooming a new offense under Bo. There's been so many tough losses and so much controversy, I feel a new chapter is in everyone's best interest. What? Callahan created this whole mess. Solich created this whole mess actually Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I've said this elsewhere...but if Callahan had replaced Cosgrove and anyone else failing in their defensive coaching responsibilities...he'd probably still be our coach.Gotta disagree here. He certainly would've been capable. Hell, even TO, for as fantastic a motivator, HC, and offensive playcaller as he was, left the D totally for McBride (God, it feels so dirty and wrong to even hint at comparing TO and Cally!). I just don't think Cally was happy in the NCAA. He's an NFL guy at heart. I think Bo probably could do well if given a fantastic OC. I personally voted B1G champs for his ceiling as a HC, if he got a McBride-esque OC that could handle that whole side of the ball WELL. I just don't want to go through the growing pains of grooming a new offense under Bo. There's been so many tough losses and so much controversy, I feel a new chapter is in everyone's best interest. What? Callahan created this whole mess. Solich created this whole mess actually Yep, by holding TO's feet to the fire in the spring of 1997. Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 You don't fire a coach who has won over 70% of their games and is closing in on his SEVENTH straight nine win season. Your Bo Pelini argument is invalid. http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/72590-your-bo-pelini-argument-is-invalid/ Quote Link to comment
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