Adam Carriker on Unsportsmanlike Conduct

[Nebfanatic]

So I went and looked up Total Defense Ranking for UConn (curious I don't see a 15th ranking in there anywhere)...

 

2014: 49th

 

2015: 30th

 

2016: 64th

Look I just went with what I heard from what Diaco said in his presser. I don't have to scour through his numbers as a head coach to trust what he said and be excited by the hire. I was a little off on my facts (the 15th ranking in scoring defense was in year 2) but my point remains the same. I think his system is flexible.

[RedDenver]

 

UConn scoring D national rank:

65th (2016)

15th (2015)

84th (2014)

 

Notre Dame scoring D national rank:

27th (2013)

2nd (2012)

24th (2011)

23rd (2010)

 

Cincinnati scoring D national rank:

44th (2009)

65th this year... ?

 

Oh dear... you better hide that fact.

 

Why would I hide facts? That's something people who can't handle informed debate would do, and I'm not one of those.

 

So I went and looked up Total Defense Ranking for UConn (curious I don't see a 15th ranking in there anywhere)...

 

2014: 49th

 

2015: 30th

 

2016: 64th

Start here and then go to the link for the year(s) you're interested in. From the 2015-2016 scoring defense page:

Rank Team G W-L TDs Opp XP 2PT Opp DXP Opp FGM Opp Saf Pts Avg 1 Wisconsin (Big Ten) 13 10-3 22 22 0 0 8 0 178 13.7 2 Ohio St. (Big Ten) 13 12-1 24 22 0 0 10 0 196 15.1 3 Alabama (Southeastern) 15 14-1 26 21 1 0 16 0 227 15.1 4 Boston College (Atlantic Coast) 12 3-9 19 18 0 0 17 0 183 15.3 5 Missouri (Southeastern) 12 5-7 22 20 0 0 14 0 194 16.2 6 Michigan (Big Ten) 13 10-3 24 22 1 0 15 0 213 16.4 7 San Diego St. (Mountain West) 14 11-3 29 29 0 0 9 0 230 16.4 8 Georgia (Southeastern) 13 10-3 26 23 1 0 13 0 220 16.9 9 Florida St. (Atlantic Coast) 13 10-3 26 24 0 0 15 1 227 17.5 10 Marshall (Conference USA) 13 10-3 28 25 1 0 12 0 231 17.8 11 Florida (Southeastern) 14 10-4 30 29 0 0 15 1 256 18.3 12 Northwestern (Big Ten) 13 10-3 30 27 0 0 11 1 242 18.6 13 Washington (Pac-12) 13 7-6 28 25 0 0 17 0 244 18.8 14 Appalachian St. (Sun Belt) 13 11-2 29 27 0 0 15 1 248 19.1 15 UConn (AAC) 13 6-7 29 27 0 0 16 2 253 19.5

[B.B. Hemingway]

Does Adam Carriker's smile creep anybody else out?

[Saunders]

For those concerned about the switch to a 3-4 being troublesome, if the DC is good enough, it won't matter.

 

Wisconsin 2012 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 323 (15th)

YPP: 4.82 (20th)

PPG: 19.1 (16th)

 

Wisconsin 2013 (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 305 (7th)

YPP: 4.73 (8th)

PPG: 16.3 (6th)

 

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LSU 2015 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 347 (25th)

YPP: 5.17 (33rd)

PPG: 24.3 (41st)

 

LSU 2016: (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 314 (10th)

YPP: 4.76 (10th)

PPG: 5th (15.8)

[lo country]

Comparing HC to DC is ridiculous. By that argument Riley was the worst hire in history. He was a .504 coach.....

 

Look at Bo as DC vs HC and at seperate schools. Bohl at NU vs NDSU and Wyoming (our best win in 2016 and a team ranked #25 in the way to early poll).

 

As a DC he looks solid. He looks to do well with good recruit classes. He seems to be fluid in his 3-4.....

 

As Saunders pointed out, Wisky and LSU seemed to improve very well switching to a 3-4.

 

I'm more concerned with how Cav and Langs will be than I am with the hiring of Bobby D.

[suh_fan93]

For those concerned about the switch to a 3-4 being troublesome, if the DC is good enough, it won't matter.

 

Wisconsin 2012 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 323 (15th)

YPP: 4.82 (20th)

PPG: 19.1 (16th)

 

Wisconsin 2013 (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 305 (7th)

YPP: 4.73 (8th)

PPG: 16.3 (6th)

 

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LSU 2015 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 347 (25th)

YPP: 5.17 (33rd)

PPG: 24.3 (41st)

 

LSU 2016: (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 314 (10th)

YPP: 4.76 (10th)

PPG: 5th (15.8)

 

 

Pretty cool stats Saunders. I agree that having a good 'coach' who can teach guys the proper way to understand defense and then carry out their assignments is huge but the jury is still out on whether or not this whole idea about scheme change and changing defensive coordinators is even going to be as drastic of an improvement as Riley and Eichorst are looking for/needing.

 

Also in the end it still amounts to having good players who can understand what's being asked of them and then carry that out. That part doesn't change.

 

The reality is that just because one school had a seamless transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4 does not mean another school is going to have the same success.

[Husker Psycho]

 

For those concerned about the switch to a 3-4 being troublesome, if the DC is good enough, it won't matter.

 

Wisconsin 2012 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 323 (15th)

YPP: 4.82 (20th)

PPG: 19.1 (16th)

 

Wisconsin 2013 (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 305 (7th)

YPP: 4.73 (8th)

PPG: 16.3 (6th)

 

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LSU 2015 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 347 (25th)

YPP: 5.17 (33rd)

PPG: 24.3 (41st)

 

LSU 2016: (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 314 (10th)

YPP: 4.76 (10th)

PPG: 5th (15.8)

 

 

Pretty cool stats Saunders. I agree that having a good 'coach' who can teach guys the proper way to understand defense and then carry out their assignments is huge but the jury is still out on whether or not this whole idea about scheme change and changing defensive coordinators is even going to be as drastic of an improvement as Riley and Eichorst are looking for/needing.

 

Also in the end it still amounts to having good players who can understand what's being asked of them and then carry that out. That part doesn't change.

 

The reality is that just because one school had a seamless transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4 does not mean another school is going to have the same success.

 

 

Correct

[Hayseed]

 

1972 Huskers......MG......Rich Glover........6'1-233

 

​1972 Sooners........NG......Lucious Selmon......5'11-224

 

​Two of the best college nose guards ever.

this is a terrible comparison. Between both of those teams, only one player weighed at least 250 lbs (and that player weighed exactly 250 lbs).

 

No it's not. The argument that the nose guard has to be a 300lb monster is based on nothing. Those two guys were terrors in the middle of the line. Big and slow gains you nothing.

[In the Deed the Glory]

 

 

1972 Huskers......MG......Rich Glover........6'1-233

 

​1972 Sooners........NG......Lucious Selmon......5'11-224

 

​Two of the best college nose guards ever.

this is a terrible comparison. Between both of those teams, only one player weighed at least 250 lbs (and that player weighed exactly 250 lbs).

 

No it's not. The argument that the nose guard has to be a 300lb monster is based on nothing. Those two guys were terrors in the middle of the line. Big and slow gains you nothing.

 

But the offensive line weighed at most 250 pounds. Now they are upwards of 330. I don't think you can use numbers from 45 years ago.

[Swiv3D]

 

 

 

 

 

1972 Huskers......MG......Rich Glover........6'1-233

 

​1972 Sooners........NG......Lucious Selmon......5'11-224

 

​Two of the best college nose guards ever.

this is a terrible comparison. Between both of those teams, only one player weighed at least 250 lbs (and that player weighed exactly 250 lbs).

No it's not. The argument that the nose guard has to be a 300lb monster is based on nothing. Those two guys were terrors in the middle of the line. Big and slow gains you nothing.

But the offensive line weighed at most 250 pounds. Now they are upwards of 330. I don't think you can use numbers from 45 years ago.

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[Mavric]

Tried to clean up some of the name-calling and pissing about. If you'd like to continue that, try here.

 

If you'd like to have more civil discussion, carry on.

[Saunders]

 

For those concerned about the switch to a 3-4 being troublesome, if the DC is good enough, it won't matter.

 

Wisconsin 2012 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 323 (15th)

YPP: 4.82 (20th)

PPG: 19.1 (16th)

 

Wisconsin 2013 (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 305 (7th)

YPP: 4.73 (8th)

PPG: 16.3 (6th)

 

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LSU 2015 (4-3 Defense)

YPG: 347 (25th)

YPP: 5.17 (33rd)

PPG: 24.3 (41st)

 

LSU 2016: (3-4 Defense)

YPG: 314 (10th)

YPP: 4.76 (10th)

PPG: 5th (15.8)

 

 

Pretty cool stats Saunders. I agree that having a good 'coach' who can teach guys the proper way to understand defense and then carry out their assignments is huge but the jury is still out on whether or not this whole idea about scheme change and changing defensive coordinators is even going to be as drastic of an improvement as Riley and Eichorst are looking for/needing.

 

Also in the end it still amounts to having good players who can understand what's being asked of them and then carry that out. That part doesn't change.

 

The reality is that just because one school had a seamless transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4 does not mean another school is going to have the same success.

 

Oh, I agree. But there's a bit of #alternativefacts going around that it's a given to expect a rough transition. It's not a sure thing that this is going to put us over the hump, but as someone who's been lukewarm on the Riley hire (alot of it due to assistant hires) I think this is a fantastic move from a schematic and recruiting perspective.

[Husker from Kansas]

Diaco explained in the presser his system is a hybrid of the 3-4 and 4-2-5. He reaffirmed it's highly flexible and talked at length about making the defense based on players here and input from others on the staff.

 

Riley said the reason he let Banker go was fundamental mistakes he saw repeating themselves from last year in the bowl game highlight. So he made a decision to go get the best D.C. available. I think all the above is positive.

 

This is exactly what a good coach does! Has a base system and adjusts it to fit his players.

 

Diaco has a 3-4 defense that is not your typical defense. Its not a typical "2 gap"system. His LB's play much closer to the line and he will send blitzes and stunts from different guys. He won't be asking the DL to take on double teams as much as a "normal" 3-4. It will be very difficult for an OL to adjust to make the correct blocks. Not to mention we have some quality speed in our LB's that should translate to nice OLB play

[Hayseed]

 

 

 

1972 Huskers......MG......Rich Glover........6'1-233

 

​1972 Sooners........NG......Lucious Selmon......5'11-224

 

​Two of the best college nose guards ever.

this is a terrible comparison. Between both of those teams, only one player weighed at least 250 lbs (and that player weighed exactly 250 lbs).

 

No it's not. The argument that the nose guard has to be a 300lb monster is based on nothing. Those two guys were terrors in the middle of the line. Big and slow gains you nothing.

 

But the offensive line weighed at most 250 pounds. Now they are upwards of 330. I don't think you can use numbers from 45 years ago.

 

I understand that, but you can imagine a 270lb guy who could play like them today. I just don't believe that "we don't have a nose guard".

[In the Deed the Glory]

 

 

 

 

1972 Huskers......MG......Rich Glover........6'1-233

 

​1972 Sooners........NG......Lucious Selmon......5'11-224

 

​Two of the best college nose guards ever.

this is a terrible comparison. Between both of those teams, only one player weighed at least 250 lbs (and that player weighed exactly 250 lbs).

 

No it's not. The argument that the nose guard has to be a 300lb monster is based on nothing. Those two guys were terrors in the middle of the line. Big and slow gains you nothing.

 

But the offensive line weighed at most 250 pounds. Now they are upwards of 330. I don't think you can use numbers from 45 years ago.

 

I understand that, but you can imagine a 270lb guy who could play like them today. I just don't believe that "we don't have a nose guard".

 

It would have made things much easier for us to make sense of for you to include an explanation like that in your original post. Still think 270 is a little small.