Mandel: Huskers Drop from 'Kings' to 'Barons' of CFB

[Landlord]

Miami, Penn State, and Notre Dame have all had worse seasons than we have over the last 20 years, and have had more of them than we have had. But they've also had higher peaks. Nobody nationally really cares about our consistent 9 win ability.

 

 

Miami won a natty in 2001, played for another in 2002, started that decade ending in the top 5 for four straight years, and are riding an upward surge of momentum after a good first year (finished #20) under a really good established coach in Richt and the #1 recruiting class.

 

Notre Dame played in a national championship game and in two BCS bowl games in the last 11-12 years. They finished ranked 11th the season before last.

 

I already detailed Penn State. In their case and in Miami's, the current perception of those programs plays a lot into it, I would imagine. People can try to excuse away their insecurities all they want, but we haven't accomplished anything worthwhile since 2001 and these programs have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

All we have to show for ourselves is a big handful of 9 win seasons and one #14 finish over the last 17 years. No top tens, no major bowls, no championships.

[Toe]

 

Notre Dame and Miami are still Kings, but Nebraska drops? That makes zero sense.

I don't know if I agree with them being kings, but both have achieved at least some amount more than us over the last ~20 years.

 

I'm actually surprised Penn St didn't drop. NU and PSU have similar accomplishments over the last 10-20 years.

They have three conference championships and 3 BCS/major bowl appearances since 2000. And they're hotter present tense.

 

Nebraska would probably have about the same if they'd been in a conference with co-champions and no championship game like the Big Ten pre-2011. I'd say the biggest thing separating the two is that last year Penn State got lucky and won a conference championship game. That 'hotter at the moment' thing.

[Landlord]

 

 

Notre Dame and Miami are still Kings, but Nebraska drops? That makes zero sense.

I don't know if I agree with them being kings, but both have achieved at least some amount more than us over the last ~20 years.

 

I'm actually surprised Penn St didn't drop. NU and PSU have similar accomplishments over the last 10-20 years.

They have three conference championships and 3 BCS/major bowl appearances since 2000. And they're hotter present tense.

 

Nebraska would probably have about the same if they'd been in a conference with co-champions and no championship game like the Big Ten pre-2011. I'd say the biggest thing separating the two is that last year Penn State got lucky and won a conference championship game. That 'hotter at the moment' thing.

 

 

 

Probably, but we weren't, and they were.

 

I see you edited your post from the 'only' thing to the 'biggest' thing. That's probably accurate as the biggest thing, but it's definitely not the only.

 

PSU since 2001

- 3 conference titles

- 3 BCS/NY6 bowl appearances

- 1 BCS/NY6 bowl win (Orange Bowl)

- 3 Top 10 finishes

- 6 Top 25 finishes

- 4 11-win seasons

 

Nebraska since 2000

- 0 conference titles

- 0 BCS/NY6 bowl appearance

- 0 BCS/NY6 bowl wins

- 0 Top 10 finishes

- 7 Top 25 finishes

- 0 11-win seasons

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

Miami won a natty in 2001, played for another in 2002, started that decade ending in the top 5 for four straight years, and are riding an upward surge of momentum after a good first year (finished #20) under a really good established coach in Richt and the #1 recruiting class.

 

 

A coach that got fired from his last job because he wasn't getting it done. #1 recruiting class now. We are #6. Neither of those are going to last.

 

 

 

 

Notre Dame played in a national championship game and in two BCS bowl games in the last 11-12 years. They finished ranked 11th the season before last.

 

 

 

Talk to me when ND joins a conference and has to win it before (I guess) anyone thinks you're relevant to the oxygen breathing world. Their way into a BCS game was totally BS.

[NUinID]

Since when does Stewie Mandel get to decide who is a king or a baron or whatever. Is he Howie Mandel's little brother?

[GSG]

@Landlord of Memorial Stadium just wants to know why Iowa isn't a Baron or King!!!!!

[Redux]

just wants to know why Iowa isn't a Baron or King!!!!!

FIFY

[Landlord]

Iowa has no pedigree or prestige. They don't have a royal family name, if you will. They're jesters who'd like to fancy themselves lords, who occasionally get to eat at the great table.

 

And nobody likes the noble who's insecure to the point of needing to compare himself to the jester.

[dvdcrr]

These days NU = "also ran". The championships stopped when the championship coach retired, and the others moved on or were fired.

Right now it is all about Urban, Nick, the comeback kid, and Dabo. One of their teams will win it all this season.

Kind of hard to win championships when they are throwing our safety out for hits that Bama gets away with weekly. Maybe they need to sick Ed Cunningham on the tide.

[Toe]

I wanna see how Dabo does post-Deshaun before I crown him king as a coach, let alone Clemson as a program.

[admo]

W-L record with winning percentage since 2010. Gives an idea of how teams have done in recent memory. The "Kings of CFB" are in bold.

 

Alabama 86-11 .886
Ohio St 79-14 .849
Florida ST 78-17 .821
Stanford 76-18 .808
Oklahoma 73-19 .793
Clemson 76-20 .791
Oregon 73-20 .784
LSU 69-21 .766
Wisconsin 71-24 .747
Oklahoma ST 68-23 .747
Michigan ST 68-25 .731
TCU 61-26 .701
Louisville 63-28 .692
Georgia 64-29 .688
USC 62-30 .673
Texas A&M 63-31 .670
Houston 61-30 .670
Nebraska 62-31 .666
Kansas ST 60-31 .659
Notre Dame 59-31 .655
Auburn 60-32 .652
Virg TECH 61-33 .648
Navy 59-32 .648
BYU 59-32 .648
Michigan 58-32 .644
S Carolina 58-33 .637
Utah 56-33 .636
Penn STATE 56-34 .622
W Virginia 55-35 .611
N Carolina 55-36 .604
Florida 56-37 .602
Baylor 54-27 .593
Miami 52-37 .584
Iowa 52-37 .584
UCLA 51-40 .566
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-Tennessee 46-42 .522
-Texas 46-42 .522

[Swiv3D]

W-L record with winning percentage since 2010. Gives an idea of how teams have done in recent memory. The "Kings of CFB" are in bold.

 

Alabama 86-11 .886

Ohio St 79-14 .849

Florida ST 78-17 .821

Stanford 76-18 .808

Oklahoma 73-19 .793

Clemson 76-20 .791

Oregon 73-20 .784

LSU 69-21 .766

Wisconsin 71-24 .747

Oklahoma ST 68-23 .747

Michigan ST 68-25 .731

TCU 61-26 .701

Louisville 63-28 .692

Georgia 64-29 .688

USC 62-30 .673

Texas A&M 63-31 .670

Houston 61-30 .670

Nebraska 62-31 .666

Kansas ST 60-31 .659

Notre Dame 59-31 .655

Auburn 60-32 .652

Virg TECH 61-33 .648

Navy 59-32 .648

BYU 59-32 .648

Michigan 58-32 .644

S Carolina 58-33 .637

Utah 56-33 .636

Penn STATE 56-34 .622

W Virginia 55-35 .611

N Carolina 55-36 .604

Florida 56-37 .602

Baylor 54-27 .593

Miami 52-37 .584

Iowa 52-37 .584

UCLA 51-40 .566

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-Tennessee 46-42 .522

-Texas 46-42 .522

ah so we're Satan's team. It all makes sense now...

[Toe]

[NUance]

Notre Dame and Miami are still Kings, but Nebraska drops? That makes zero sense.

 

I'm actually surprised Penn St didn't drop. NU and PSU have similar accomplishments over the last 10-20 years.

 

I was gonna use Tejas as an example. And I see Admo's post seems to support that.

[Guy Chamberlin]

Alabama's record from 1997 - 2004:

 

4-7

7-5

10-3

3-8

7-5

10-3

4-9

6-6

 

2 ranked seasons, 6 unranked seasons, 3 losing seasons

 

So in 2004 you probably could have dropped Alabama down to Baron status, too.

 

For that matter, Bama posted unacceptable-by-Nebraska-standards seasons for most of the 1980s.