Chatelain: Bob Diaco's defense on red alert after Red Wolves roll Huskers for 497 yards

[Pedro Guerrero]

Dirk article = Who cares

[BoNeyard]

On ‎9‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 8:20 AM, Huskinator said:

I an just glad that didn't bite them in the butt.   We won the game and got away with a mistake, I hope they learn from it and build off it.  Clock management was atrocious!!!!  That is something you can learn from now though.  

Did they learn from the Illinois game in 2015?

[LumberJackSker]

19 minutes ago, BoneyardHusker said:

Did they learn from the Illinois game in 2015?

No

[The Dude]

1 hour ago, BoneyardHusker said:

Did they learn from the Illinois game in 2015?

I mean, they put the blame on Armstrong.  I'm not sure they knew they did anything wrong.

[Mavric]

This kind of illustrates why I'm skeptical of the "playing vanilla/holding things back" argument.  Yes, to some extent it's possible.  I don't really buy that but it's possible.

 

But when it gets to the fourth quarter and it's still a competitive contest, could we not break out at least a couple of the tricks?  Was "holding things back" more important than making sure we won this game?

 

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The Red Wolves ran a whopping 32 plays in the fourth quarter alone. They had the ball for 8 minutes, 37 seconds, accumulating 12 first downs and 163 yards on the way to 10 points. ASU needed 17 on the scoreboard, of course, so all that production amounted to a good workout for the NU defense and perhaps some elevated heart rates for NU coaches and fans.

 

LJS

[BigRedBuster]

ASU ran 89 plays.  That included 68 passes and 21 runs.

 

The rush defense gave up a whopping 3.9 yards per play with a longest of 14 yards.  Zero TDs.

 

Now, we go into Oregon.  Last week, they passed it 27 times and ran it 52.

 

This matchup is going to be very interesting to me to see if the decent rushing defense remains.  I expect Oregon's yards per play is going to be more than 3.9.  How much more will be interesting.

[VectorVictor]

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

ASU ran 89 plays.  That included 68 passes and 21 runs.

 

The rush defense gave up a whopping 3.9 yards per play with a longest of 14 yards.  Zero TDs.

 

Now, we go into Oregon.  Last week, they passed it 27 times and ran it 52.

 

This matchup is going to be very interesting to me to see if the decent rushing defense remains.  I expect Oregon's yards per play is going to be more than 3.9.  How much more will be interesting.

 

Good point, and something a lot of us (myself included) have overlooked. The question is whether or not those meager 21 running plays called were a byproduct of being stonewalled by the defense...or if it's just indicative of their scheme and priorities?

[ColoradoHusk]

Just now, VectorVictor said:

 

Good point, and something a lot of us (myself included) have overlooked. The question is whether or not those meager 21 running plays called were a byproduct of being stonewalled by the defense...or if it's just indicative of their scheme and priorities?

Sharp and Benning commented today that Arky State ran a number of RPO's and the pass was wide open so often they just passed it.

 

I think it was also shown in Husker Chalk Talk that the NU defender would be caught in no-mans land on the RPO's and wouldn't defend either the run or the pass.

[VectorVictor]

42 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Sharp and Benning commented today that Arky State ran a number of RPO's and the pass was wide open so often they just passed it.

 

I think it was also shown in Husker Chalk Talk that the NU defender would be caught in no-mans land on the RPO's and wouldn't defend either the run or the pass.

 

Thanks. Makes sense why some of our guys looked like statues out there on defense during the first half. 

[Enhance]

12 hours ago, Mavric said:

This kind of illustrates why I'm skeptical of the "playing vanilla/holding things back" argument.  Yes, to some extent it's possible.  I don't really buy that but it's possible.

 

But when it gets to the fourth quarter and it's still a competitive contest, could we not break out at least a couple of the tricks?  Was "holding things back" more important than making sure we won this game?

 

 

LJS

Agreed. Based on several things I've read/heard in the last couple of days, I think it's a combination of the system being new but also having some personnel issues. IIRC, Benning said there was a particular backer who just looked lost at times on Saturday. Benning also mentioned that there's not a lot you can do from a philosophical standpoint when your guy is in the right position and he whiffs on a tackle.

 

Husk's post is also pertinent as I remember Benning discussing that this morning.

[Mavric]

45 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Agreed. Based on several things I've read/heard in the last couple of days, I think it's a combination of the system being new but also having some personnel issues. IIRC, Benning said there was a particular backer who just looked lost at times on Saturday. Benning also mentioned that there's not a lot you can do from a philosophical standpoint when your guy is in the right position and he whiffs on a tackle.

 

Husk's post is also pertinent as I remember Benning discussing that this morning.

 

I think it's hard to know what the LBs should or shouldn't have been doing because they were obviously coached to NOT do anything for longer than normal.  So to some extent they were all trying to play catch-up.

[Crusader Husker]

52 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Agreed. Based on several things I've read/heard in the last couple of days, I think it's a combination of the system being new but also having some personnel issues. IIRC, Benning said there was a particular backer who just looked lost at times on Saturday. Benning also mentioned that there's not a lot you can do from a philosophical standpoint when your guy is in the right position and he whiffs on a tackle.

 

Husk's post is also pertinent as I remember Benning discussing that this morning.

Which backer?  Guessing Newby or Young.  We need to bring a safety down to learn the position.

 

 

[RedDenver]

4 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

Which backer?  Guessing Newby or Young.  We need to bring a safety down to learn the position.

 

 

Alex Davis

[Crusader Husker]

Oh yes, the wheel route I noticed.  Started rewatching the game.

[RedDenver]

2 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

Oh yes, the wheel route I noticed.  Started rewatching the game.

The Chalk Talk thread shows a gif of Newby rooted in place covering neither the pass nor the run.