RedDenver Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, teachercd said: I didn't say it did. I said our personalities suck. Ok. That won't change no matter who's the next HC, so does that matter to whether he should hire CK? Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, RedDenver said: Ok. That won't change no matter who's the next HC, so does that matter to whether he should hire CK? No, that is my point. Kelly is a great hire and it doesn't matter if we think he will share enough with us. We suck, fans suck, we are annoying. Riley used to have open practices(for the fans)...he got here and that stopped. The only thing that matters to me and all fans (you too) is if the coach wins a lot of games. I don't need tweets and smiles and handshakes, I don't need open practices and cute sound bites. All I want... A Spring Game 12 regular season games where the team plays well and wins about 9 or 10 of during a bad season and 11 or more during a great year. I don't care at all about the rest of it. Just like the the NU coach doesn't care what I do and how I act. 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, teachercd said: No, that is my point. Kelly is a great hire and it doesn't matter if we think he will share enough with us. We suck, fans suck, we are annoying. Riley used to have open practices(for the fans)...he got here and that stopped. The only thing that matters to me and all fans (you too) is if the coach wins a lot of games. I don't need tweets and smiles and handshakes, I don't need open practices and cute sound bites. All I want... A Spring Game 12 regular season games where the team plays well and wins about 9 or 10 of during a bad season and 11 or more during a great year. I don't care at all about the rest of it. Just like the the NU coach doesn't care what I do and how I act. Yes, if he's winning at a level like Saban is, then you're right. But when the eventual merely good or mediocre years come, or not winning a championship, then his personality and relationship to the fans is going to matter. It's a big part of what sunk Pelini. Once the fanbase is divided, it's hard to recover from that. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, RedDenver said: Yes, if he's winning at a level like Saban is, then you're right. But when the eventual merely good or mediocre years come, or not winning a championship, then his personality and relationship to the fans is going to matter. It's a big part of what sunk Pelini. Once the fanbase is divided, it's hard to recover from that. I don't think it was divided...people wanted a change with Bo and couldn't find ENOUGH so they went with "he is mean" okay, great. We got Mike and people were like "Hey, as long as he is nice and represents the school the right way that is all that matters" and well, it didn't. We turned on him. So it doesn't actually matter HOW they act...it just matters how they win Quote Link to comment
huskerfan69 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 are there seriously people who would not want kelly? yea he struggled in the nfl but so did saban. 1 Quote Link to comment
Nebhawk Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, huskerfan69 said: are there seriously people who would not want kelly? yea he struggled in the nfl but so did saban. Again, What did Kelly do in College football? Played for one NC. Sure in 4 years he did really good things. He also had a Heisman front runner, and some really good offensive players. Saban didn't do great in NFL, but had won a title already before he left. Besides, there is only one Saban, like there was only one Tom Osborne. They don't grow these coaches on trees. Its time we find that fit for Nebraska, not the fit the looks the part. Would I reject Chipster getting hired here, Heck no. He would be a huge improvement over what has been since 97'! He is not a Husker and would basically use this place for about 3 years, and bolt either back to the NFL or to the Pac 12. That is my big down side on him, more than his coaching ability. Listened to 590am today and they were ranking (Severe) the Nebraska program. 18-20 was the overwhelming consensus. Thats looking at jobs right now, not based on something that happened 20 years ago. So, that is about fair and right if your open minded. Our coaching staff ranks in the bottom of the power 5 schools. We have lowballed our way for the last 20 years. This is why we hired Riley and Bo. Well in my opinion, you get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, huskerfan69 said: are there seriously people who would not want kelly? yea he struggled in the nfl but so did saban. No...there are not. There are people that are thinking they would not want him. But in the end they would want him. If "they" embraced Riley...they would embrace Kelly Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The people saying that they wouldn't want Chip Kelly amaze me. That would be a slam dunk home run hire that would IMMEDIATELY put Nebraska back in the national conversation. However, I would rather have Scott Frost. Yes, I know that doesn't make much sense. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 6:49 PM, jessica0 said: I am stunned that people would turn this away: Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP° Oregon Ducks (Pac-10/Pac-12 Conference) (2009–present) 2009 Oregon 10–3 8–1 1st L Rose† 11 11 2010 Oregon 12–1 9–0 1st L BCS NCG† 3 3 2011 Oregon 12–2 8–1 T–1st (North) W Rose† 4 4 2012 Oregon 12–1 8–1 T–1st (North) W Fiesta† 2 2 Oregon: 46–7 33–3 Total: 46–7 National championship Conference title Conference division title Well you see, they want a splash hire. Someone who is........Nick Saban. Chip would be a great get if NU can't get Frost. Fans won't care about the alienation. Boosters might, but why? After all this time...no one in Nebraska cares about anything except being competitive and relevant. NU program is the state's life. Nebraska has literally NOTHING else but Nebraska football. College World Series I guess....but that's not something people hold on to like NU football Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, Coach Power'T said: Well you see, they want a splash hire. Someone who is........Nick Saban. Chip would be a great get if NU can't get Frost. Fans won't care about the alienation. Boosters might, but why? After all this time...no one in Nebraska cares about anything except being competitive and relevant. NU program is the state's life. Nebraska has literally NOTHING else but Nebraska football. College World Series I guess....but that's not something people hold on to like NU football Henry Doorly Zoo says "Hi!" Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Coach Power'T said: no one in Nebraska cares about anything except being competitive and relevant. I care about more than that. 1 Quote Link to comment
ScawFraw Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 If Chip Kelly takes the Florida job, that would be alright with me. 5 Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Nebhawk said: Again, What did Kelly do in College football? Played for one NC. Sure in 4 years he did really good things. He also had a Heisman front runner, and some really good offensive players. Saban didn't do great in NFL, but had won a title already before he left. Besides, there is only one Saban, like there was only one Tom Osborne. They don't grow these coaches on trees. Its time we find that fit for Nebraska, not the fit the looks the part. Would I reject Chipster getting hired here, Heck no. He would be a huge improvement over what has been since 97'! He is not a Husker and would basically use this place for about 3 years, and bolt either back to the NFL or to the Pac 12. That is my big down side on him, more than his coaching ability. Listened to 590am today and they were ranking (Severe) the Nebraska program. 18-20 was the overwhelming consensus. Thats looking at jobs right now, not based on something that happened 20 years ago. So, that is about fair and right if your open minded. Our coaching staff ranks in the bottom of the power 5 schools. We have lowballed our way for the last 20 years. This is why we hired Riley and Bo. Well in my opinion, you get what you pay for. What has Frost done as an HC? Quote Link to comment
LaunchCode Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Blackshirts007 said: Ok it was not that successful under Bellotti and he did a lot more than sustaining winning ways. He brought them to the top, which they had never been. When he left how did Mark H do at sustaining that winning culture? How about Taggart now? Oregon was what they were because of Chip. Bellotti's team thoroughly dominated CU in the Fiesta Bowl for a 12-1 season. I don't think Chip ever produced a better finish. Kelly inherited a 10 win team, had the full backing of Nike's money and marketing behind him, then found a Texas street agent to help recruit for him and land the key players to his success. Everything I've read about him says he doesn't like to recruit or deal with fans, boosters, and the media. That's a formula for success in Lincoln(sarc). When he landed at Orgone his system was novel and none of the pac-ten defenses were geared to stop it. The college landscape has changed dramatically ever since, similar offenses have sprung up everywhere and defenses have changed, adapted, and are much more prepared now. Also, Stanford, the only power team in the pac-ten gave him losses. How's that going to work in a conference with multiple power teams? Also unlike his Orgone run, he's not inheriting the hottest team in the conference, his system wouldn't be taking anyone by surprise, Orgone actually recruits at a higher level according to rankings than Nebraska and if he doesn't like to recruit how's that going to change? Then there's the fact none of our QB's are Marrioda like and will all fare better in MR's system. 3 Quote Link to comment
TonyStalloni Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 4:53 PM, RedNebraskan said: Why the hate on Chip Kelly? The scandal right? One of the major complaints with Callahan and Pelini to some degree was their lack of interest in Husker history and past players. We can agree or disagree on the importance of that issue. Chip Kelly would have little interest in Husker lore. Can he coach.....yes. Can he run a clean program.....debatable. Would he be an improvement over Riley and staff....yes. One thing I remember about Oregon teams. They didn't always do well vs Big Ten teams in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment
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