Popular Post RedSavage Posted February 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 hours ago, OTHusker said: She accused the other 2 Boys of assault It looks like the police have chosen to not go after them which most likely means she’s lying And many teens in that position probably would lie especially with mom and the whole school in on it so mo sends her and only her a copy the jealous immature boyfriend who’s gal gives bjs to classmates on camera in a car and is humiliated by said video being passed around school he made a mistake I’m guessing more than a handful of kids that age would do he sent the video to her and only her punishment yes probation yes penance yes death penalty no What is this, some sorta s#!tty haiku? 4 6 Quote Link to comment
Decoy73 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 In regards to his potential future status on the football team, remember this all happened before he was enrolled at NU. That’s no excuse for what he may have done or legal consequences he may face, but IMO it does factor into his potential future playing football here going forward. That should eventually be up to Frost and NU administration and will likely not be determined until after any potential legal consequences get determined. 1 Quote Link to comment
NM11046 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Decoy73 said: In regards to his potential future status on the football team, remember this all happened before he was enrolled at NU. That’s no excuse for what he may have done or legal consequences he may face, but IMO it does factor into his potential future playing football here going forward. That should eventually be up to Frost and NU administration and will likely not be determined until after any potential legal consequences get determined. I agree with this, and will add - that if he lied about this to the staff or hid it as a pending issue during his recruitment or hid it after rumbles started when CA tried to reach out to him, then I feel we're dealing with issues probably related to team rules/moral clause. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, NM11046 said: I agree with this, and will add - that if he lied about this to the staff or hid it as a pending issue during his recruitment or hid it after rumbles started when CA tried to reach out to him, then I feel we're dealing with issues probably related to team rules/moral clause. I think it's well past the point of invoking a "clause". Once University leadership found out about it he sought legal counsel. And Moos has already said Washington has support and it's a legal issue now. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 So we're all clear... there are more punishments for "violation of team rules" than being booted from the team. 1 Quote Link to comment
Decoy73 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: The only punishment I think is appropriate is for MW for keeping a video and sending it to the girl with the intent to shame her. How does anyone other than Maurice know what his intent was. I'm sure the prosecuting attorneys want all of us to assume that his intent was to shame her because it fits so nicely in their shiny new law, but if we take a step back and think about all possible scenarios, then actual intent gets a little harder to prove. I, personally can't stand the word "intent" included in any legal definition. It relies too much on assumptions to prove innocence or guilt. So far with what all has been reported as facts, at this time Maurice appears to be guilty of nothing more than misdemeanor possession of child pornography. If this were to be the case, then there should be consequences, but it is entirely different than the theoretical creep with 1000s of pics of 8yo's that Olddominionhusker described above. 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Decoy73 said: How does anyone other than Maurice know what his intent was. I'm sure the prosecuting attorneys want all of us to assume that his intent was to shame her because it fits so nicely in their shiny new law, but if we take a step back and think about all possible scenarios, then actual intent gets a little harder to prove. I, personally can't stand the word "intent" included in any legal definition. It relies too much on assumptions to prove innocence or guilt. So far with what all has been reported as facts, at this time Maurice appears to be guilty of nothing more than misdemeanor possession of child pornography. If this were to be the case, then there should be consequences, but it is entirely different than the theoretical creep with 1000s of pics of 8yo's that Olddominionhusker described above. “Remember this hoe” Quote Link to comment
desertshox Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: “Remember this hoe” do you have the full context that that was sent in? without that, you are still assuming his intent. 2 Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 maybe he meant to send a picture of a backhoe or something that he saw in Nebraska. 1 4 Quote Link to comment
NM11046 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, TheSker said: I think it's well past the point of invoking a "clause". Once University leadership found out about it he sought legal counsel. And Moos has already said Washington has support and it's a legal issue now. I may have missed an update - last I read (and I'm out of state, so I'm sure there are a ton of articles I've missed) there were questions about dates that Mo knew about the issue w/police in what would have been during his recruitment as well as contact by the state of CA being attempted this fall. If the staff knew about all this and made their minds up to play him and see how things rolled then that's one thing. If they just found out a few weeks ago and he'd been lying or hiding the issue from them then in my opinion there are likely some discussions about not just the legal issues he is facing (I'm sure that's their first priority) but also his actions with regard to to misleading the coaching staff and team. 2 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 16 hours ago, NM11046 said: I may have missed an update - last I read (and I'm out of state, so I'm sure there are a ton of articles I've missed) there were questions about dates that Mo knew about the issue w/police in what would have been during his recruitment as well as contact by the state of CA being attempted this fall. If the staff knew about all this and made their minds up to play him and see how things rolled then that's one thing. If they just found out a few weeks ago and he'd been lying or hiding the issue from them then in my opinion there are likely some discussions about not just the legal issues he is facing (I'm sure that's their first priority) but also his actions with regard to to misleading the coaching staff and team. I doubt Washington told Frost about it during his recruitment but I also doubt Washington thought it was something he'd be dealing with like this. And again, every appearance is that Washington has the support of Moos, Frost and Vaughn. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 16 hours ago, NM11046 said: there were questions about dates that Mo knew about the issue w/police in what would have been during his recruitment 2 minutes ago, TheSker said: I doubt Washington told Frost about it during his recruitment but I also doubt Washington thought it was something he'd be dealing with like this. Washington sent the text in March 2018. He had already signed his LOI. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Washington sent the text in March 2018. He had already signed his LOI. His eligibility was still questionable. The point is though that regardless of opinions on what was or wasn't known, the athletic department has made it clear that they will support Washington. Quote Link to comment
Railroader Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) Just curious . . . if someone is assigned 1 to 2 years probation . . . how likely is a future scholarship or contract offer? Outside of NFL, has this happened? Edited February 17, 2019 by Railroader mo betta info Quote Link to comment
SouthLincoln Husker Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Railroader said: Just curious . . . if someone is assigned 1 to 2 years probation . . . how likely is a future scholarship or contract offer? Outside of NFL, has this happened? This is a broad question. Is probation one coming out of prison or probation as plea bargin. Totally different instances. Quote Link to comment
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