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Sonofabitch. Why can’t we have nice things?

 

Might not be a deal breaker on its own but not a good look on top of his other headlines.

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Why are people so quick to think that Mo will be kicked off the team?  I am not saying he won't be, but it's a relatively minor citation.  Yes, it's on top of his current legal situation, and not a smart look for Mo, but do we know if Frost has a hard stance against pot?

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Hard to say what happens. Frost said he was doing well as a student but I think you have to draw the line somewhere. Really stupid of Mo, given his legal problems.

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5 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Why are people so quick to think that Mo will be kicked off the team?  I am not saying he won't be, but it's a relatively minor citation.  Yes, it's on top of his current legal situation, and not a smart look for Mo, but do we know if Frost has a hard stance against pot?

I Don't know what stance frost has on weed,  but he might see it as a bad look for the program if he keeps him around. 

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Good luck at JUCO, Mr. Washington. It was fun watching you run for a season.

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6 minutes ago, Sker fer life said:

I Don't know what stance frost has on weed,  but he might see it as a bad look for the program if he keeps him around. 

Maybe I have lived in Colorado for too long, but this drug paraphernalia citation is very minor.  Isn't it just a fine?

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4 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Maybe I have lived in Colorado for too long, but this drug paraphernalia citation is very minor.  Isn't it just a fine?

Yep unless it's a meth pipe or needles then they can be tested and you get charged with what was in it.

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1 minute ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Maybe I have lived in Colorado for too long, but this drug paraphernalia citation is very minor.  Isn't it just a fine?

I think it is just a fine.  But given his other legal issues pending I think frost might feel pressured to cut him loose.  

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Just now, man eating mastodon said:

Yep

Thanks.  So if he is cleared from his issues in California, the only legal strike against him is a minor drug citation.  That's not worthy of being kicked off the team, in my opinion.

 

This violation isn't nearly as bad as stealing bikes or getting a DUI (which a coach was able to keep his job).

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1 minute ago, Sker fer life said:

I think it is just a fine.  But given his other legal issues pending I think frost might feel pressured to cut him loose.  

By who?  The gray-hairs in the 50th row of the south stadium?

 

Although if Osborne gives his 2 cents about the dangers of weed, then Mo is probably done.

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I have zero issue with marijuana in a vacuum; I think it should be legalized and taxed. However, on top of his previous charges, this probably doesn't bode well for him. 

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2 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Thanks.  So if he is cleared from his issues in California, the only legal strike against him is a minor drug citation.  That's not worthy of being kicked off the team, in my opinion.

 

This violation isn't nearly as bad as stealing bikes or getting a DUI (which a coach was able to keep his job).

 

 

It doesn’t seem likely to me he’s getting cleared of all charges. Just guessing of course. But I assumed he’d stay on the team anyway. But getting caught for something else, even if it’s minor, is a lot worse for him because he already knows he’s under the microscope. It’s foolish. 

 

By itself I don’t care but he knows what the law is and what the rules are.

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1 minute ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Thanks.  So if he is cleared from his issues in California, the only legal strike against him is a minor drug citation.  That's not worthy of being kicked off the team, in my opinion.

 

This violation isn't nearly as bad as stealing bikes or getting a DUI (which a coach was able to keep his job).

 

Just now, ColoradoHusk said:

By who?  The gray-hairs in the 50th row of the south stadium?

 

If it affects his plea deal in California, then it could absolutely affect his standing on the team. 

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Just now, Cdog923 said:

 

 

If it affects his plea deal in California, then it could absolutely affect his standing on the team. 

That's a point, but would a weed charge in Nebraska have any bearing on the District Attorney's office in California and their plea deal there?  Weed is legal in California.

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Pretty wimpy charge, but with all the other stuff going on I’ve been checking Rahmir Johnson highlights hoping he’s ready to step in immediately if needed.

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Just now, ColoradoHusk said:

That's a point, but would a weed charge in Nebraska have any bearing on the District Attorney's office in California and their plea deal there?  Weed is legal in California.

 

I'm mainly going off Jack Mitchell's timeline on Twitter ATM: 
 

 

 

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It is so frustrating to see him make a decision like this. I said when he signed that Maurice was going to be one of those kids that had to be micromanaged from the start. I know they purposely roomed him with Cam Taylor because Cam is mature and a terrific role model for Maurice, but It appears that Maurice is self-destructive when he is alone.  

 

No matter how legal weed is in CA, you do not put yourself in these situations, especially when you have a serious case looming over your head. Maurice could not afford to have anything like this happen, because he already has a lot of character issues. Having worked in the Long Beach area, this is unfortunately a cultural thing. I don't want to go too much into that, but you can tell these kids that weed will get you kicked out, and it just doesn't process. I can't tell you how many kids I have cussed out for being so weak in that regard. 

 

It's ironic that HCSF already has a "Lawrence Phillips" situation on his hands. Maurice is that kind of talent, and he also has similar character flaws. To many, that might be a stretch, but I can assure you it's not. 

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I’ve always thought the Cali charges were kind of a joke.

 

That being said, a potential character flaw is being exposed if this latest situation pans out.   If he makes it through this, which I think he will (3 game suspension), I doubt he makes it to 2020 on the roster.

 

He’s a transfer in waiting in my opinion.

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2 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

I’ve always thought the Cali charges were kind of a joke.

 

That being said, a potential character flaw is being exposed if this latest situation pans out.   If he makes it through this, which I think he will (3 game suspension), I doubt he makes it to 2020 on the roster.

 

He’s a transfer in waiting in my opinion.

 

At the risk of reliving the old MW thread, I don't. 

 

These charges, in a vacuum, aren't anything. Run some stadium steps, maybe a couple dickbusters, and be done with it. On top of the issues he has in Cali, I think his tenure on the team is certainly in limbo. 

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5 minutes ago, Vince R. said:

It is so frustrating to see him make a decision like this. I said when he signed that Maurice was going to be one of those kids that had to be micromanaged from the start. I know they purposely roomed him with Cam Taylor because Cam is mature and a terrific role model for Maurice, but It appears that Maurice is self-destructive when he is alone.  

 

No matter how legal weed is in CA, you do not put yourself in these situations, especially when you have a serious case looming over your head. Maurice could not afford to have anything like this happen, because he already has a lot of character issues. Having worked in the Long Beach area, this is unfortunately a cultural thing. I don't want to go too much into that, but you can tell these kids that weed will get you kicked out, and it just doesn't process. I can't tell you how many kids I have cussed out for being so weak in that regard. 

 

It's ironic that HCSF already has a "Lawrence Phillips" situation on his hands. Maurice is that kind of talent, and he also has similar character flaws. To many, that might be a stretch, but I can assure you it's not. 

Wow, you are comparing LP to Mo?  That's laughable.

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As an ex-narcotics agent, less than one ounce of marijuana is an infraction in Nebraska. That is equal to a parking ticket. It isn’t even a misdemeanor. IMO, Frost should kick people off the team for parking tickets if he is going to do it for marijuana use. He could be afraid of the stigma it would put on his program if he doesn’t. If he kicks him off the team  “to prepare the players for the NFL’s rules” , I wouldn’t agree with that because the NFL will allow marijuana use after the next union contract is negotiated. If he kicks him off because no drug use is a team rule, then I am all for it. Be a part of the team and a leader. Just depends on how Frost spins this one on whether most people will agree or not agree with the punishment. 

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10 minutes ago, Vince R. said:

It is so frustrating to see him make a decision like this. I said when he signed that Maurice was going to be one of those kids that had to be micromanaged from the start. I know they purposely roomed him with Cam Taylor because Cam is mature and a terrific role model for Maurice, but It appears that Maurice is self-destructive when he is alone.  

 

No matter how legal weed is in CA, you do not put yourself in these situations, especially when you have a serious case looming over your head. Maurice could not afford to have anything like this happen, because he already has a lot of character issues. Having worked in the Long Beach area, this is unfortunately a cultural thing. I don't want to go too much into that, but you can tell these kids that weed will get you kicked out, and it just doesn't process. I can't tell you how many kids I have cussed out for being so weak in that regard. 

 

It's ironic that HCSF already has a "Lawrence Phillips" situation on his hands. Maurice is that kind of talent, and he also has similar character flaws. To many, that might be a stretch, but I can assure you it's not. 

 

 

What culture are you talking about? Do you mean Black people? Just curious, because most people cite cultural problems when they’re talking about what they think is wrong with Black people.

 

Phillips dragged a woman by her hair down several flights of stairs. I can assure you it’s a chasm spanning stretch.

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1 minute ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Wow, you are comparing LP to Mo?  That's laughable.

I am in terms of behavior. Mo cannot be left alone, and will self-destruct if he is. I am not comparing his charges to the same things that LP did.  

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11 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

At the risk of reliving the old MW thread, I don't. 

 

These charges, in a vacuum, aren't anything. Run some stadium steps, maybe a couple dickbusters, and be done with it. On top of the issues he has in Cali, I think his tenure on the team is certainly in limbo. 

Exactly

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52 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Why are people so quick to think that Mo will be kicked off the team?  I am not saying he won't be, but it's a relatively minor citation.  Yes, it's on top of his current legal situation, and not a smart look for Mo, but do we know if Frost has a hard stance against pot?

 

I don’t know if he’ll be cut loose or not but given Frost’s statements about putting the team first, making good decisions etc. and the fact Mo is already on some shaky ground with his other deal, I think Frost may be running the risk of being seen as only paying lip service if he doesn’t do something. Sure, weed paraphernalia is right down there with jaywalking nowadays but I sure don’t see how this bodes well for Mo’s chances at staying on the team. Guessing he may have already been talked to and it was probably pretty clear that he was in zero tolerance territory. I guess we’ll find out, just extremely disappointed that so many of these guys seem to miserably fail at identifying what’s really important for their team and career.

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1 minute ago, JJ Husker said:

 

I don’t know if he’ll be cut loose or not but given Frost’s statements about putting the team first etc. and the fact Mo is already on some shaky ground with his other deal, I think Frost may be running the risk of being seen as only paying lip service if he doesn’t do something. Sure, weed paraphernalia is right down there with jaywalking nowadays but I sure don’t see how this bodes well for Mo’s chances at staying on the team. Guessing he may have already been talked to and it was probably pretty clear that he was in zero tolerance territory. I guess we’ll find out, just extremely disappointed that so many of these guys seem to miserably fail at identifying what’s really important for their team and career.

I don’t really think he will be kicked off the team, but Frost doesn’t seem like the kind of guy that will put up with a “Me over Team” guy for a long time.

 

Teams win championships and change culture.  You can have all the individual talent in the world, but going against the grain hurts the cause.

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isn't paraphernalia things like a pipe, bong, etc. It looks like no drugs were found which is good. Very minor issue, though the fact that he was likely smoking mj with all his other issues shows signs of questionable decision making. I don't think anything will come of it. Hope he channels all his issues into becoming a beast on the field. Sky's the limit for Mo, the only thing that can hold him back is himself

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38 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

What culture are you talking about? Do you mean Black people? Just curious, because most people cite cultural problems when they’re talking about what they think is wrong with Black people.

 

Phillips dragged a woman by her hair down several flights of stairs. I can assure you it’s a chasm spanning stretch.

It is not race specific, although black players made up a large portion of it. Now just to throw it out there, I am a person of color myself, and see it all throughout my own community. I had to deal with Polynesian, Mexican, White, and Mixed kids as well. It had more to do with where you were from, and not so much with the skin color. We had African American kids on our team who were model citizens and students. 

 

With the LP comparison, it's not comparing weed to physical assault, or even revenge porn to physical assault and attempted murder. The fact is that both are self destructive by nature. The odds are higher that in two years, Mo will be a detriment to himself as opposed to getting a college degree. Frost has to be feeling a lot like how Osborne did in the sense of weighing what might happen if Maurice doesn't have Nebraska. 

 

When I heard his story, watched him on national television, found out about him being expelled, seeing and hearing about him being very weird at times, finding out that he associates himself with the crips in stockton, the revenge porn, and now this trivial but dumb decision; I have seen this episode before (and on a loop). It's worse when it gets magnified by how talented he is. 

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He should go.

 

No, one paraphernalia ticket isn't worthy of being booted, but this shows a pattern of behavior and a disregard for his teammates in doing this while under investigation already.

 

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1 hour ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Why are people so quick to think that Mo will be kicked off the team?  I am not saying he won't be, but it's a relatively minor citation.  Yes, it's on top of his current legal situation, and not a smart look for Mo, but do we know if Frost has a hard stance against pot?

 

I’m sure it’s in the team rules, at the very least, so he’d HAVE to have a hard stance if he wants his culture installed properly.  That being said, this alone shouldn’t merit any excessive punishment (or any, imo).  If I understand the situation, he wasn’t found with any ACTUAL drugs, and they can’t prove he was the one creating the smell of pot.  Probably was, but prove it.  

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1 hour ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Why are people so quick to think that Mo will be kicked off the team?  I am not saying he won't be, but it's a relatively minor citation.  Yes, it's on top of his current legal situation, and not a smart look for Mo, but do we know if Frost has a hard stance against pot?

No kidding...

 

Do some of you posters think the guys on the team are NOT smoking pot and drinking?  

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I’ll just wait and see how each of these things plays out separately before I make a snap judgment about his standing on the team. 

 

Not a good look at all. Really stupid wherever he was and with whomever he was with to be around doing this whilst awaiting trial...

 

Looks like he’ll be paying for mistakes but I’ll wait and see how each is handled and adjudicated before declaring him gone. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, teachercd said:

No kidding...

 

Do some of you posters think the guys on the team are NOT smoking pot and drinking?  

Of course I don't think that.  Did he need to carry things with him? Couldn't he smoke at home for a few years until he isn't playing football anymore?

 

You aren't seeing the forest for the trees.  He is under investigation and he chose to continue behaviors that could make the situation worse.  That shows a me first attitude and goes against the team culture being created. 

 

He didn't learn anything.  If Frost wants culture change and to create accountability,  here's an opportunity to drive it home.

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11 minutes ago, runningblind said:

Of course I don't think that.  Did he need to carry things with him? Couldn't he smoke at home for a few years until he isn't playing football anymore?

 

You aren't seeing the forest for the trees.  He is under investigation and he chose to continue behaviors that could make the situation worse.  That shows a me first attitude and goes against the team culture being created. 

 

He didn't learn anything.  If Frost wants culture change and to create accountability,  here's an opportunity to drive it home.

I see everything just fine.

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2 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Why are people so quick to think that Mo will be kicked off the team?  I am not saying he won't be, but it's a relatively minor citation.  Yes, it's on top of his current legal situation, and not a smart look for Mo, but do we know if Frost has a hard stance against pot?

 

I think every situation is different, and for one offense I think most coaches should allow a player to be given a second chance to show he is trulu sorry and will do anything possible to remain on the team. Once that trust is broken a second time I would tell the player he lost his chance to be on the team and has disrespected the staff and his peers.

 

This is early in Frost's tenure and I think its important for him to set the right tone for what he expects from players now and years to come. 

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1 minute ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

I think every situation is different, and for one offense I think most coaches should allow a player to be given a second chance to show he is trulu sorry and will do anything possible to remain on the team. Once that trust is broken a second time I would tell the player he lost his chance to be on the team and has disrespected the staff and his peers.

 

This is early in Frost's tenure and I think its important for him to set the right tone for what he expects from players now and years to come. 

I understand what you are saying, and Mo needs to be held accountable, but what he did is a simple citation. Like others have said, it’s like he was given a speeding ticket while facing charges elsewhere. If Mo is guilty of anything, it’s being a stupid kid.  If it were anything besides pot (which still has a terrible stigma in the ultra conservative Nebraska) it wouldn’t be a big deal. 

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The charges might not amount to much, legally, but at this point you have to at least consider Washington unreliable because his decisonmaking is suspect. We need to have somebody ready to step up as the new #1, at the start of the season or at any time Washington is here.

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I guess we will see how it plays out, the situation in Cali.  will probably be the deciding factor but things do start to add up that individually are not big deal.  

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16 minutes ago, mnhusker said:

I guess we will see how it plays out, the situation in Cali.  will probably be the deciding factor but things do start to add up that individually are not big deal.  

I’m in the same boat. The charges in Cali are much more serious but even those were a ‘kids mistake’...several yrs ago. Came back to bite him hard. 

 

Having an herb pipe isn’t much either. 

 

But taken together, whilst under scrutiny already is just a terrible plot. If Cali comes down hard, who knows? Couple a serious charge with this minor infraction...I’d still be hard pressed to dismiss but Frost has a rough job of not playing favorites,  his culture install,  and keeping things with a fair mind. Whatever he decides to do AFTER all things are adjudicated I’ll be okay with. (Barring other facts or f#&% ups). 

 

Hey Mo! Stop don’t dumb s#!t buddy. 

 

 

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Wow. Lots of knee-jerk reactions here.

 

He won’t be punished by NU for the California thing as he wasn’t even enrolled yet. Do you really think Frost wants to start a precedent of retroactive punishment for what players did before being a Husker?   

 

The weed thing— Who cares?  It’s a minor infraction. He’s probably stressed out about all the BS in Cali. You really want to toss a kid out for that when our POTUS has done ten times worse things and half of us are apparently ok with that?

 

Unbelievable folks.  We don’t need a team of future Sunday School Teachers ( no offense if anyone here is).  

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7 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

Wow. Lots of knee-jerk reactions here.

 

He won’t be punished by NU for the California thing as he wasn’t even enrolled yet. Do you really think Frost wants to start a precedent of retroactive punishment for what players did before being a Husker?   

 

The weed thing— Who cares?  It’s a minor infraction. He’s probably stressed out about all the BS in Cali. You really want to toss a kid out for that when our POTUS has done ten times worse things and half of us are apparently ok with that?

 

Unbelievable folks.  We don’t need a team of future Sunday School Teachers ( no offense if anyone here is).  

 

He had signed his LOI, so yes, he was a part of the program. 

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2 hours ago, Cdog923 said:

 

I'm mainly going off Jack Mitchell's timeline on Twitter ATM: 
 

 

 

Generally speaking you are advised at initial/arraignment to not possess narcotics, seek or be employeed etc (felony in Cali court appearance)....Not a good look to get cited for paraphernalia.

 

Mills had off the field issues IIRC and was kicked off GT. Frost and Co actively recruited him.  TO kept a lot of "misfit" kids during our glory years.  Frost seems to be cut from the same cloth about really trying to help the kids.  Not just kick them to the curb.

 

 

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1 hour ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I understand what you are saying, and Mo needs to be held accountable, but what he did is a simple citation. Like others have said, it’s like he was given a speeding ticket while facing charges elsewhere. If Mo is guilty of anything, it’s being a stupid kid.  If it were anything besides pot (which still has a terrible stigma in the ultra conservative Nebraska) it wouldn’t be a big deal. 

 

I am not sure how or why you replied in this thread but you may want to try to copy your reply to the Mo Wash thread. 

 

As for what Mo is facing, I dont think the scrutiny is a unique Nebraska thing. I agree with many other posters that his decision making and commitment to being part of the program is suspect.  I guarantee that if he were not so gifed athletically or was a walk on that did not play and faces these same charges, there would be fewer on here defending the player.

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