The 2024 Presidential Election- The LONG General Election

[suh_fan93]

2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Ha...yeah he is better than the last two!  

 

 

By a landslide.

[BigRedBuster]

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

Ha...yeah he is better than the last two!  

 

 

That's a pretty dang low bar to get over.

[suh_fan93]

 

[funhusker]

2 hours ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

I hope they pull it off!

 

It will be fun to watch those diabetics in Texas beg for the cheap “commy” insulin 

[suh_fan93]

Just now, funhusker said:

I hope they pull it off!

 

It will be fun to watch those diabetics in Texas beg for the cheap “commy” insulin 

 

LOL.  I hope so too!

[Guy Chamberlin]

One thing Gavin Newsom does very well is think on his feet and speak extemporaneously. Despite all the sniping about taxes, housing prices, and lib regulations, California still has a very powerful economic and pro-business story, and Newsom does a good job of promoting it. 

 

He would absolutely destroy Trump and most Republicans in the Presidential Debates.

 

But I think we're very close to the GOP simply refusing to take part in the debates, claiming it's just a gotcha exercise for the liberal media.

[BigRedBuster]

13 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

and pro-business story,

I don't know about that.  It's amazing to me the companies I talk to that say they would never locate a facility in California.  In fact, that's why many of the states around California have a robust manufacturing economy.  They manufacture in Utah, Nevada or Oregon....etc so they can ship into California.

[Goal-line]

Get rid of the electoral college. 

[funhusker]

7 minutes ago, Goal-line said:

Get rid of the electoral college. 

I'd be completely okay with keeping it if representation were fair.

[Guy Chamberlin]

5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

I don't know about that.  It's amazing to me the companies I talk to that say they would never locate a facility in California.  In fact, that's why many of the states around California have a robust manufacturing economy.  They manufacture in Utah, Nevada or Oregon....etc so they can ship into California.

 

Well there's more to pro-business than manufacturing. Many companies do move their manufacturing facilities to states and municipalities with cheap housing and labor, and often with incentives from those local governments. But it's always been that way. And of course those companies keep going in that direction until they find an even more robust manufacturing environment in China, Malaysia, India, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc. 

 

But California continues to generate s#!t tons of money for the United States by committing to innovation, intellectual property, and venture capital — a world leader in that regard — and that culture continues to be rooted in the state. Folks in the midwest often forget that California is the #1 agribusiness state in the country by a good margin. and is still the #3 defense contractor. Still plenty of Fortune 500 companies in the state, with more valuation than most countries. There has been a growing U.S. trade imbalance over the years, but California's tech, gaming, entertainment, and intellectual property business have done more than its share keeping us afloat. 

 

It's easy to make fun of California, and frankly the state deserves a lot of it,  but the American economy would be screwed without us. 

[BigRedBuster]

6 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

But California continues to generate s#!t tons of money for the United States by committing to innovation, intellectual property, and venture capital — a world leader in that regard — and that culture continues to be rooted in the state. Folks in the midwest often forget that California is the #1 agribusiness state in the country by a good margin. and is still the #3 defense contractor. Still plenty of Fortune 500 companies in the state, with more valuation than most countries. There has been a growing U.S. trade imbalance over the years, but California's tech, gaming, entertainment, and intellectual property business have done more than its share keeping us afloat. 

You are correct.  California does produce a lot of tax revenue.

 

But.

 

Even those tech companies are starting to tire of doing business in CA.

 

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/2021-05-tech-office-lease-sf-twitter-salesforce-16151686.php

[Danny Bateman]

5 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Well there's more to pro-business than manufacturing. Many companies do move their manufacturing facilities to states and municipalities with cheap housing and labor, and often with incentives from those local governments. But it's always been that way. And of course those companies keep going in that direction until they find an even more robust manufacturing environment in China, Malaysia, India, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc. 

 

But California continues to generate s#!t tons of money for the United States by committing to innovation, intellectual property, and venture capital — a world leader in that regard — and that culture continues to be rooted in the state. Folks in the midwest often forget that California is the #1 agribusiness state in the country by a good margin. and is still the #3 defense contractor. Still plenty of Fortune 500 companies in the state, with more valuation than most countries. There has been a growing U.S. trade imbalance over the years, but California's tech, gaming, entertainment, and intellectual property business have done more than its share keeping us afloat. 

 

It's easy to make fun of California, and frankly the state deserves a lot of it,  but the American economy would be screwed without us. 

 

It's just chef's kiss that California is the bane of all red states' existence while it is doing the heavy lifting subsidizing their way of life so they can continue their b!^@hing about the evils of big government, high taxes and the liberal agenda.

[teachercd]

5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

You are correct.  California does produce a lot of tax revenue.

 

But.

 

Even those tech companies are starting to tire of doing business in CA.

 

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/2021-05-tech-office-lease-sf-twitter-salesforce-16151686.php

Yep!

 

Those tech biznasses that started there 30 years ago no longer give AF about "being in" cali...that train has stopped and more will continue to leave.

 

It is ironic that what made Cali this economic power the last 30 years is also going to be the reason that companies leave it...

 

But hey, they still have porn industry which generates billions and for some reason Cali hates.

[teachercd]

5 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Well there's more to pro-business than manufacturing. Many companies do move their manufacturing facilities to states and municipalities with cheap housing and labor, and often with incentives from those local governments. But it's always been that way. And of course those companies keep going in that direction until they find an even more robust manufacturing environment in China, Malaysia, India, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc. 

 

But California continues to generate s#!t tons of money for the United States by committing to innovation, intellectual property, and venture capital — a world leader in that regard — and that culture continues to be rooted in the state. Folks in the midwest often forget that California is the #1 agribusiness state in the country by a good margin. and is still the #3 defense contractor. Still plenty of Fortune 500 companies in the state, with more valuation than most countries. There has been a growing U.S. trade imbalance over the years, but California's tech, gaming, entertainment, and intellectual property business have done more than its share keeping us afloat. 

 

It's easy to make fun of California, and frankly the state deserves a lot of it,  but the American economy would be screwed without us. 

Yeah...so...I get the feeling you are like super retired.  Right?

[admo]

On 7/7/2022 at 8:29 AM, teachercd said:

No kidding!

 

Maybe people like what he has to say but the state is a mess.

I love the city of Chicago... Haven't been since 2010 tho.

 

Is the price for parking still a twenty to thirty?? I hated that bs