Biden's America

[Archy1221]

 

[BigRedBuster]

We can argue all day about whatever plant was shut down. But,  Presidents don’t micro management to the point of making decisions on shutting down this plant or that plant. 
 

Yhet would have happened no matter what president was in office. Yep, even Trump. 
 

Now, when it caused a problem, the administration pushed to get it back open and open up getting formula imported….which has been banned through multiple administrations. 
 

The administration has done what should have been done. 

[knapplc]

10 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

We can argue all day about whatever plant was shut down

 

It was the Sturgis, MI plant. And that only happened after a whistleblower alerted the FDA that management was lying to them. And a surprise inspection showed the very bacteria that killed two babies, among other violations.

 

It's all Right Here. Super easy to read, from reliable sources. 

 

There's no excuse for pretending President Joe Biden is at fault for the baby formula shortage. It's entirely the company's fault.

[BigRedBuster]

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

There's no excuse for pretending President Joe Biden is at fault for the baby formula shortage. It's entirely the company's fault.

It's the company's fault along with decisions about imported formula that were made long before Biden was in office.

[DevoHusker]

 

 

 

[Moiraine]

3 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's crazy people have immigration so high when we have a labor shortage.

[nic]

We have the ability to be energy independent and produce all the energy we need and he thinks this a transition moment. I hope he enjoys the midterms. 

 

“Here’s the situation.  And when it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels when this is over," Biden said

 

https://www.newsweek.com/backlash-biden-says-high-gas-prices-are-part-incredible-transition-1709401

 

[DevoHusker]

16 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It was the Sturgis, MI plant. And that only happened after a whistleblower alerted the FDA that management was lying to them. And a surprise inspection showed the very bacteria that killed two babies, among other violations.

 

It's all Right Here. Super easy to read, from reliable sources. 

 

There's no excuse for pretending President Joe Biden is at fault for the baby formula shortage. It's entirely the company's fault.

 

I can't read yours. You are right regarding Biden's role.

 

But found this one without a paywall. https://apnews.com/article/science-health-government-and-politics-

 

In mid-February, Abbott announced it was recalling various lots of three powdered infant formulas from the plant, after federal officials began investigating rare bacterial infections in four babies who were fed formula. Two of the infants died. But it’s not certain the bacteria came from the plant; strains found at the plant didn’t match the two available samples from the babies.

 

 

[knapplc]

3 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

I can't read yours. You are right regarding Biden's role.

 

But found this one without a paywall. https://apnews.com/article/science-health-government-and-politics-

 

In mid-February, Abbott announced it was recalling various lots of three powdered infant formulas from the plant, after federal officials began investigating rare bacterial infections in four babies who were fed formula. Two of the infants died. But it’s not certain the bacteria came from the plant; strains found at the plant didn’t match the two available samples from the babies.

 

 

 

You can't read the CDC link? What list are you on? 

 

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/outbreaks/infant-formula.html

 

 

 

[Archy1221]

19 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

I can't read yours. You are right regarding Biden's role.

 

But found this one without a paywall. https://apnews.com/article/science-health-government-and-politics-

 

In mid-February, Abbott announced it was recalling various lots of three powdered infant formulas from the plant, after federal officials began investigating rare bacterial infections in four babies who were fed formula. Two of the infants died. But it’s not certain the bacteria came from the plant; strains found at the plant didn’t match the two available samples from the babies.

 

 

Exactly, but people want to gloss over the facts

[knapplc]

So... this bacteria killed two babies. This bacteria was found in the Sturgis plant, which the FDA shut down. 

 

What does it matter if it's the same strain? This bacteria kills babies, and shouldn't be on the production floor. Shut the plant down, clean it, and get it back up and running. If the company had done their job this shutdown wouldn't have happened. 

 

[BigRedBuster]

23 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Exactly, but people want to gloss over the facts

How did the administration fail in this?

[Archy1221]

9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

How did the administration fail in this?

The FDA and CDC failed in my opinion 

[BigRedBuster]

Just now, Archy1221 said:

The FDA and CDC failed in my opinion 

So, they shouldn't have shut down a plant that had bacteria that can kill babies.

[Archy1221]

32 minutes ago, knapplc said:

What does it matter if it's the same strain?

It’s kinda important to know where the babies got it from if you want to shut down so much production.

 

33 minutes ago, knapplc said:

This bacteria kills babies, and shouldn't be on the production floor.

It wasn’t according to the investigation notes 

 

34 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Shut the plant down, clean it, and get it back up and running.

They did and the FDA/CDC drug their feet in allowing a reopening.  

2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, they shouldn't have shut down a plant that had bacteria that can kill babies.

Did I say that?