commando Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 i can remember "many fine people" who were marching around carrying torches and yelling "jews will not replace us" trump called them very fine people. how that wasn't suppose to be a call to arms for the nazis and anti semitics i will never figure out. 1 Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 7 hours ago, ZRod said: This whole discussion has gotten way too heated in light of recent events. What you call the left, isn't angry that a Republican won, or that a brash businessman won. Infact myself and many, many others here we're willing to give him a chance once he was elected, but he never tone down the rhetoric and vitral. They're angry that an indecent human being, seemingly incapable of self reflection, and incapable of bringing the nation together won. They're angry that someone won who is clearly lining their own pockets in office, while taking away the health and we'll being of the most vulnerable among us. These recent incidents didn't occur in a vacuum. For you and I words may not have a very big impact, but when you're an elected official, or working in the office of one, everything you say and do matters. Everything you don't say and do matter equally so. The president, his press secretaries, the vice president, the Senate majority leader, etc. have all been caught telling grand lies to the nation. When confronted with evidence of their lies they either refuse to acknowledge them, or attempt to create some alternate reality. When the Press, who are the voice of the people, won't stop holding them accountable what do they do? They call them the enemy of the people, they cut off access (SHS cancelled the daily press briefing), demean them, and they incite vocal anger against them. These are elected officials, who are here to serve the public, and by cutting off access to the Press they have effectively side stepped accountability. And while they cut off that access they continue to whip up their fan base telling them that they are letting in violent criminals, taking their guns, and stealing their jobs. They're dumping fuel on the Fire, and at the same time taking away any of the fire extinguisher to keep the flames under control. Don't feign surprise when those who are under attack begin to talk back and stand up for themselves in social protests. When you cut off the people they will push back. This didn't start with Trump, it didn't start under Obama, and it didn't start under Bush. This is the culmination of something more than 20 years in the making. Trump is just the gasoline that is exploding the smoldering embers. There is a turning point in politics if we care to look, where things became less about moving this country forward, and more about scoring wins at all costs. Less about civil discourse, and more about name calling. That isn't what we need. Compromise isn't a dirty word. Holding people accountable for their words and actions, or lack their of, isn't treating them unfairly. It's a standard that we as a nation used to hold ourselves to, and it's a standard that needs to be reinforced again. Your first sentence is so concise and solid and then the second paragraph went all crazy - which makes zero reason to read the remainder of this message. I can't find one thing in the bolded paragraph that is true. 1 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, GBRFAN said: Your first sentence is so concise and solid and then the second paragraph went all crazy - which makes zero reason to read the remainder of this message. I can't find one thing in the bolded paragraph that is true. What part is wrong? 1 Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, Frott Scost said: What part is wrong? as stated in my second sentence - All of that paragraph 2 Link to comment
funhusker Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, GBRFAN said: as stated in my second sentence - All of that paragraph According to some posters here, I'm part of the "angry left". I can't think of one redeeming quality that Donald Trump has. I have formed my opinion of him by watching the debates, his interviews, his rallies, and his ridiculous Twitter page. I, along with several people I know, also would have gladly voted for John Kasich over Hillary Clinton. That paragraph isn't wrong. Edit: I also would have voted for Rubio (at the time of the election), or Bush. 3 Link to comment
funhusker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 ^^^Didn't realize my above post was confusing. I thought it was pretty straight forward. I'm angry because a giant gasbag is my President, I don't care what party he represents. 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, funhusker said: ^^^Didn't realize my above post was confusing. I thought it was pretty straight forward. I'm angry because a giant gasbag is my President, I don't care what party he represents. Exactly. Lets set politics to the side for a moment, this isn't the guy we want leading our country. Just about anyone else would be better regardless of party. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Lindsey Graham has no place speaking on behalf of the victims of his enabling behavior. Good for those people for exercising their right to free speech. And shocking that someone would jump at the chance to characterize that simple protest as an "angry mob." LOL Link to comment
commando Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 48 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said: i watched the video...but don't see where it was a moment of silence for the victims. the newscasters said nothing about them interrupting the moment of silence. and there was a big USA chant going on so they were also interrupting the silence? 1 Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Yeah lets go back to a "politician" similar to Obama and see how much money we can spend so that we can get a little further into the hole that we've found over the past 30 years. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, GBRFAN said: Yeah lets go back to a "politician" similar to Obama and see how much money we can spend so that we can get a little further into the hole that we've found over the past 30 years. Wrong thread? 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 So, apparently Republicans are OK with cloaking themselves in religion except for when that religion becomes inconvenient. 2 Link to comment
ZRod Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 18 hours ago, GBRFAN said: as stated in my second sentence - All of that paragraph What did I get wrong? Grab them by the pu&&y Donald Trump will not divest from his business empire and will instead hand over control of his companies to sons Eric and Donald Jr., along with his longtime Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg A public relations firm working for the kingdom spent nearly $270,000 on lodging and catering at his Washington hotel near the Oval Office through March of last year, according to filings to the Justice Department. A "last-minute" visit in March by a group from Saudi Arabia accompanying Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had boosted room rentals at the hotel by 13 percent for the first three months of the year, after two years of decline. But the Trump International Hotel in Washington, DC, which Trump opened while campaigning for the presidency, has flourished. According to the Wall Street Journal, the hotel brought in $18 million in revenue in the first four months of 2017, in part by hiking its room rates. It made a nearly $2 million profit during that time period, despite budgeting for a $2.1 million loss. Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses The Affordable Care Act had an outside limit of 3 to 1 based on age. That’s not in this bill. And Hoffman told us the flexibility doesn’t stop there. "They could charge people in less healthy communities or occupations way more than others," Hoffman said. "Just guaranteeing that everyone can get a policy has no meaning if the premiums are unaffordable for people more likely to need medical care." 2 1 Link to comment
commando Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, knapplc said: So, apparently Republicans are OK with cloaking themselves in religion except for when that religion becomes inconvenient. well...duh...they were radical liberal clergy since they spoke out against anything republican endorsed. 2 Link to comment
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