Dr. Strangelove Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, RedDenver said: Yes Strongly disagree. Democrats are doing well in elections because Republicans are currently flailing on the ground punching themselves in the face despite playing the game of politics on easy mode. Left wing groups are a liability to Democrats and hurt their chances to win elections in states that matter. 1 1 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said: Democrats are doing well in elections because Republicans are currently flailing on the ground punching themselves in the face I do have to agree with this in too many cases. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Decked said: Ground war about to begin. Iranian backed militias moving into Syria. Lebanon military exchanging fire with the IDF. Lot of fronts to open up in this war. Ughh. Not good for anyone. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Ughh. Not good for anyone. So here in the USA we love to use the word "systemic" and we use it a lot. In the Middle East, I think it is safe to say all this stuff is exactly that, "systemic." 2 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Lorewarn said: Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention says “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.” It also has language about individual or mass forcible transfers as well as deportations, all of which has been happening in Israel-occupied Palestinian land for decades. Israel is occupying land that isn't legally theirs, displacing people that lived on that land, and controlling all of the movement, the water, the energy and the food coming in and out. Israel disputes this, The US under Obama abstained from the UN vote. Now the interesting part. In 1947 Israel agreed to the land borders the UN is squawking about, but guess what? THE ARAB countries rejected it and promptly ATTACKED Israel after Israel declared Independence . Israel won and basically said F you, I guess we will enjoy a bit more land than we agreed to, along with the international community and the Arabs objected to. Jordan annexed East Jerusalem, Israel parts of west Jerusalem. Neither of which was the original plan, but the Arab community f#&%ed up by attacking Israel so the plan goes out the window. Egypt went ahead and took over/occupied Gaza Strip at that time and “occupied” it till the Arab countries f#&%ed up again and tried attacking Israel for not much any reason except they would like to kill and eradicate Israel and it’s population. Well they lost, and Israel said well f#&% you again and took more territory. Why not?? Israel ended up giving Sinai Peninsula back, left its settlements. Arab countries have no one to blame but themselves. The bleeding hearts for those attacking Israel fail to realize, Israel wants to live in peace, attacks in defense of being attacked whereas the Jew hating countries and people proactively attack Israel because the literally hate them and would prefer them dead. Israel has control of what goes into the Gaza Strip because Palestinians refuse to expel Hamas, reuse to acknowledge Israel as a state and won’t accept Oslo Accords. Israel also has control of water because the governing body of Gaza(Hamas) decides to spend so much aid on terror instead of desalination plants, or an electric grid. 1 2 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, teachercd said: So here in the USA we love to use the word "systemic" and we use it a lot. In the Middle East, I think it is safe to say all this stuff is exactly that, "systemic." And “nuanced” 1 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Archy1221 said: And that could be cured based on accepting the conditions of removing the blockade. Renounce Hamas and terror towards Israel, recognize Israel, accept Oslo Accords and then the international approved blockade goes away And do that, and you die at the hands of Hamas. How do you break that? Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 Important message. 1 2 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Important message. My apologies are in order it would appear. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Did Hamas declare "war" on all non muslims?? Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 10 hours ago, DevoHusker said: My apologies are in order it would appear. Yeah….I fell for it at first too. 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Archy1221 said: And “nuanced” The correct word, as it usually is. We have really become addicted to polarity, and want every issue or world event squeezed into one of two silos. The Middle East is such a web of complexities, hypocrisies, motivations, and players that's it's a metaphor for any unresolvable conflict. Every Jew I know is horrified by the Hamas attack and worried about Netanyahu's response. If nuanced is too soft of a term, go with conflicted. 4 1 Link to comment
Decked Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Israel bombing Aleppo tonight. Looks to be the second bombing of the international airport. Really trying to take it out of service for a potential Iranian resupply or to use as a forward base iran meanwhile telling Israel it does not want direct conflict but they may be forced to intervene if they invade Gaza. Yikes. 1 Link to comment
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