In the Deed the Glory Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Quote Riley said he never considered taking Lee out and putting in Patrick O'Brien after the pick-six. "Just by the fact that this is a three-point game, he's played so much more, and we had a lot of faith that he would bring it back and he did," Riley said. "He made some real good throws after that. It had nothing to do with how we feel about Patrick, either. This guy (Lee) has been in the games and he sucked it up and made some throws." I agree with Coach Riley on the bolded... Quote Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, irafreak said: Or he could simply be one of those people that crumbles under pressure... That's certainly what Tulane fans have told us to expect. Like Mike Grant, he'll look amazing in practice and then crumble on gameday. Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think Riley is saying the right thing here after the game. I don't think you say anything about pulling him ahead of time to the media, you just do it when the time comes. Now whether Riley actually pulls the trigger before it's too late remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 So according to Riley's comments he would expect POB to complete less than 50% of his passes and throw more than 9 INTs in four games. That's hope for the future. Quote Link to comment
melscott62 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, knapplc said: There are a few issues with this, and all of them represent a huge problem here. 1) Patrick O'Brien isn't remotely ready to go. This, after enrolling early, spending two springs, and one full season, including two summer workouts, in the program under this OC, the alleged "Quarterback Whisperer." 2) O'Brien is ready to go, but the coaches think he'll get killed behind this O Line. Which is a huge problem pointing at Cavanaugh. 3) O'Brien is ready to go, they're not that worried about the O Line, but they think Lee is really the guy to lead us this season, meaning we have another Sam Keller situation on our hands. 4) The coaches see no benefit to letting Lee view a series or two from the sideline to get his bearings. This is patently false, though. On #2. Obrien is more mobile. He's a better choice with our line. But yeah......+1 for this post....spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Riley and Langs look at more mobility as a negative. 4 Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Huskerzoo said: IMPO, I'd be having him spend time with a sports psychologist on the sideline. If we had a good one, yes. But our sports psychology department is one of those things that was left by the wayside in the early 00s, and I don't think we ever got the talent in that department that we had in the 1990s... Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 From what I've see Lee just doesn't have it. When the bullets start flying he's a different QB than what he does with a green jersey on. Quote Link to comment
seaofred92 Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Huskerzoo said: IMPO, I'd be having him spend time with a sports psychologist on the sideline. Can we at least offer this as a courtesy to the fans for when we throw pick 6's? Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, knapplc said: There are a few issues with this, and all of them represent a huge problem here. 1) Patrick O'Brien isn't remotely ready to go. This, after enrolling early, spending two springs, and one full season, including two summer workouts, in the program under this OC, the alleged "Quarterback Whisperer." 2) O'Brien is ready to go, but the coaches think he'll get killed behind this O Line. Which is a huge problem pointing at Cavanaugh. 3) O'Brien is ready to go, they're not that worried about the O Line, but they think Lee is really the guy to lead us this season, meaning we have another Sam Keller situation on our hands. 4) The coaches see no benefit to letting Lee view a series or two from the sideline to get his bearings. This is patently false, though. Good write-up. It's incredibly hard for us to know as fans which one of the four scenarios it is. Sometimes a guy also doesn't see the field because the coaching staff says, "he just doesn't know the playbook as well as the current starter does." This might fall under Option #1 above, or it might be a fifth option. But let's say it's that. How do we not at least try him for a couple of series? Maybe Lee knows the playbook better, but maybe O'Brien has a knack for at least not consistently throwing to a receiver that's entirely covered. Just that in and of itself would be a huge benefit over what we currently are battling. 2 Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 That's what makes a career .500 coach.That's what they do to maintain their .500 status. 2 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, knapplc said: There are a few issues with this, and all of them represent a huge problem here. 1) Patrick O'Brien isn't remotely ready to go. This, after enrolling early, spending two springs, and one full season, including two summer workouts, in the program under this OC, the alleged "Quarterback Whisperer." 2) O'Brien is ready to go, but the coaches think he'll get killed behind this O Line. Which is a huge problem pointing at Cavanaugh. 3) O'Brien is ready to go, they're not that worried about the O Line, but they think Lee is really the guy to lead us this season, meaning we have another Sam Keller situation on our hands. 4) The coaches see no benefit to letting Lee view a series or two from the sideline to get his bearings. This is patently false, though. # 3, I mentioned this on the other thread. It seems a bit like the Sam Keller situation. Keller was BC's 'next great QB' and played him even though the other players were not on board - there was discord in the player ranks because they knew Ganz was the better option but BC had made a commitment to Keller's dad, etc. Keller eventually gets hurt and Ganz finishes out the season. But the next year under Bo, it becomes readily apparent that BC made a big mistake the year before. It was a demonstration of his arrogance - along wt not firing Cosgrove that led to his own firing by TO. Quote Link to comment
Comish Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Does anyone believe that if a running back had 9 fumbles, 4 of which were returned for TD's, he would see the field again before a secondary back was tried? Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Comish said: Does anyone believe that if a running back had 9 fumbles, 4 of which were returned for TD's, he would see the field again before a secondary back was tried? How well does the next guy know the playbook? Quote Link to comment
Huskerzoo Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 28 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: If we had a good one, yes. But our sports psychology department is one of those things that was left by the wayside in the early 00s, and I don't think we ever got the talent in that department that we had in the 1990s... I agree with you. I read their research and wasn't impressed. Though you don't have to be a strong researcher to be a good sports psychologist. There are just not enough people who really understand human behavior well out there. Quote Link to comment
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