Red Five Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 3. And now, I notice this shift where we are supposed to NOT care about rivals rankings and only care about 247 and Scout and ESPN. You should be looking at the 247 Composite. It takes into account the 247, Rival, Scout, and ESPN rankings. Somewhere I posted Bo's 247 Composite rankings, but I can't find them. They weren't the greatest. He had 1 "great" class (teens), then a buch in the upper 20s and lower 30s. Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 3. And now, I notice this shift where we are supposed to NOT care about rivals rankings and only care about 247 and Scout and ESPN. You should be looking at the 247 Composite. It takes into account the 247, Rival, Scout, and ESPN rankings. Somewhere I posted Bo's 247 Composite rankings, but I can't find them. They weren't the greatest. He had 1 "great" class (teens), then a buch in the upper 20s and lower 30s. Ya I only mentioned Scout because I remembered one of their guys tweeting our class ranking. 247 composite should be the gauge,imo. Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 However I do think Rivals gets a little too political with benefitting guys who attend their Rivals camps. Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Arrgg. Couldn't find my post, so doing it again... Not looking at the 2008 transition class, here are Bo's 247 Composite Rankings / Number of Commits / Number of 4*: 2009 - #42 (19 commits / 2 4*) 2010 - #27 (20 commits / 5 4*) 2011 - #16 (21 commits / 9 4*) 2012 - #30 (17 commits / 8 4*) 2013 - #22 (26 commits / 7 4*) 2014 - #36 (25 commits / 2 4*) Bo's average class was #29, taking 21 kids, and 5 4* kids. We currently sit at #21 with ~10(?) more kids to take. We will be better than an "average" Bo class, and hopefully better than every Bo class except 2011. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Arrgg. Couldn't find my post, so doing it again... Not looking at the 2008 transition class, here are Bo's 247 Composite Rankings / Number of Commits / Number of 4*: 2009 - #42 (19 commits / 2 4*) 2010 - #27 (20 commits / 5 4*) 2011 - #16 (21 commits / 9 4*) 2012 - #30 (17 commits / 8 4*) 2013 - #22 (26 commits / 7 4*) 2014 - #36 (25 commits / 2 4*) Bo's average class was #29, taking 21 kids, and 5 4* kids. We currently sit at #21 with ~10(?) more kids to take. We will be better than an "average" Bo class, and hopefully better than every Bo class except 2011. Thanks! I hope you are right. Quote Link to comment
girlknowsfootball Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 My concern right now is the DE and DT positions. LB has been a HUGE upgrade. QB has been a HUGE upgrade. I have no doubt Coach Williams will be able to recruit wideouts. He just hasn't had the time to build the relationships over time yet. Cavanaugh will get good O-Linemen. Riley's system will attract good TE's. DB we will be fine. We have Dismuke who will be good. Holmes has us in his top group and he is the #2 CB for 2017. This class is lacking at DB because a lot of recruits were already choosing their schools slightly after Riley came on board. He didn't have time to develop relationships with the Sophomores and Juniors for this class. Like I said, my concern is at DT and DE. I haven't heard one thing about coach Hughes... we don't seem to have that many DT offers out and we don't seem to be in the top 5 of many highly ranked prospects. I realize we have a good depth there right now and one off year won't kill us, but it does concern me. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 I agree -- DE and DT is on everyone's minds. I'd add DB to the equation, too; I mean, we shall see. But coach Hughes is my biggest worry. Everything else seems to be moving very positively. Quote Link to comment
girlknowsfootball Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I agree -- DE and DT is on everyone's minds. I'd add DB to the equation, too; I mean, we shall see. But coach Hughes is my biggest worry. Everything else seems to be moving very positively. If you look at the OV's scheduled... there is not one D-Lineman. Not one. We have 3-4 db's scheduled to visit who are high on us. They all have size and speed so they have a lot of potential. 4* DT Chris Daniels is still interested in us. Our staff hasn't shown much interest in DT Garrett Rand and he had some others above us anyways. 3* DT Stephon Taylor is interested in us and we are recruiting him hard. 3* Malik Walker is also being recruited by us. That's pretty much it at the DT position. At DE... We're recruiting Carlo Kemp, who is high on Stanford and Michigan. Conor Murphy who we have a shot at. Noah Fant - who many feel will end up at Nebraska. Amani Bledsoe who we still have a shot with. Justin Madubuike - who has shown good interest in us. Mykelle McDaniel - who has shown good interest in us. Based on current news. It looks like the guys highest on us are Noah Fant, Justin Madubuike, Mykelle McDaniel, Stephon Taylor, Chris Daniels, and Maliek Walker. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Because Hughes is a terrible recruiter and an average coach at that. But we'll see. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Because Hughes is a terrible recruiter and an average coach at that. But we'll see. Yeah he doesn't know what he is doing... Hughes Profile Coaching Experience 2015: Nebraska, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 2014: Cincinnati, Assistant Coach (Co-Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2013: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2011-12: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line) 2005-10: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach for Defense/Defensive Line) 2002-04: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2001: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1998-2000: Memphis, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1994-97: Harvard, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line/Special Teams) 1993: Cincinnati, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1992: Montreal Machine, WLAF, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers) 1991: Montreal Machine, WLAF, Assistant Coach (Linebackers) 1985-90: James Madison, Assistant Coach (Linebackers/Recruiting Coordinator) 1982-84: Lafayette, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1981: Northeastern, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1980: Springfield College, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1979: Albany, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1 Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Because Hughes is a terrible recruiter and an average coach at that. But we'll see.Yeah he doesn't know what he is doing... Hughes Profile Coaching Experience 2015: Nebraska, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 2014: Cincinnati, Assistant Coach (Co-Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2013: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2011-12: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line) 2005-10: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach for Defense/Defensive Line) 2002-04: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2001: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1998-2000: Memphis, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1994-97: Harvard, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line/Special Teams) 1993: Cincinnati, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1992: Montreal Machine, WLAF, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers) 1991: Montreal Machine, WLAF, Assistant Coach (Linebackers) 1985-90: James Madison, Assistant Coach (Linebackers/Recruiting Coordinator) 1982-84: Lafayette, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1981: Northeastern, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1980: Springfield College, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1979: Albany, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) Neat he's coached for a long time. So have other average coaches at the FBS level. 3 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Most surprising to me is Williams' lack of commits in this class. Then again, I keep forgetting it's only July. Still haven't adjusted to recruiting being a year-round activity. heh Quote Link to comment
macroboy Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Because Hughes is a terrible recruiter and an average coach at that. But we'll see. What are you basing that on? I'm just asking. I don't have any opinions of him one way or the other. You seem to marginalize his resume....so what are you using? Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 The effort seems amazing, there's no doubt about that. There's a chance it's just how all other big time programs actually do things and we just weren't used to it. But effort without the awesome results that we all want is a problem. So that's why I'm hoping they end up with a top 20 top 15 class Quote Link to comment
Stumpy1 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Because Hughes is a terrible recruiter and an average coach at that. But we'll see.Yeah he doesn't know what he is doing... Hughes Profile Coaching Experience 2015: Nebraska, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 2014: Cincinnati, Assistant Coach (Co-Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2013: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2011-12: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line) 2005-10: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach for Defense/Defensive Line) 2002-04: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line) 2001: Connecticut, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1998-2000: Memphis, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1994-97: Harvard, Assistant Coach (Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line/Special Teams) 1993: Cincinnati, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1992: Montreal Machine, WLAF, Assistant Coach (Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers) 1991: Montreal Machine, WLAF, Assistant Coach (Linebackers) 1985-90: James Madison, Assistant Coach (Linebackers/Recruiting Coordinator) 1982-84: Lafayette, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1981: Northeastern, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1980: Springfield College, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) 1979: Albany, Assistant Coach (Defensive Line) Neat he's coached for a long time. So have other average coaches at the FBS level. Hughes was co-recruiter for Alexander out of NJ. That is his area and he was the guy that let Bray know about Alexander. As far as being an average coach. Maybe you should go look at his defenses while he was DC and who he coached. Here is a nice write-up: Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:08 PM The 2012 season saw the Husky defense ranked as one of the finest in school history as the unit ranked seventh in the country in rushing, ninth in total defense and 19th in scoring defense. Defensive end Trevardo Williams was selected in the fourth round of the NFL Draft by the Houston Texans. In 2011, UConn's rushing defense was ranked fourth in the country and first in the BIG EAST. Defensive lineman Kendall Reyes was named First Team All-BIG EAST for the second year in a row. In 2010, his defense was ranked 28th in the country and fourth in the BIG EAST in pass efficiency defense and was also ranked 35th in the country in scoring defense. Following the 2009 season, he was named the Assistant Coach of the Year by the Gridiron Club of Greater Boston. The UConn defense finished the 2008 season ranked sixth in the country and first in the BIG EAST Conference in total defense at 278.00 yards per game and was also ninth in passing efficiency defense (first in BIG EAST), 16th in rushing defense (second in BIG EAST) and 22nd in scoring defense (third in BIG EAST). Under Hughes, UConn led the BIG EAST in total defense in each of its first two seasons in the league. The Huskies finished seventh in the nation in 2006, averaging 297.1 yards per game in total defense while also ranking fourth in passing defense and seventh in passing efficiency defense. The Huskies used their stout defense to gain the 2007 BIG EAST Championship with the team ranking in the top 17 nationally in passing defense, passing efficiency defense and scoring defense. In 2002, the Huskies' first Division I-A season, Hughes defense ranked fifth in the nation in passing defense (160.4 yards per game), 18th in passing efficiency defense (102.44 rating) and 19th in total defense (316.1 yards per game). The Huskies ranked 23rd nationally by forcing 32 turnovers. UConn continued this defensive success in 2004 as the team led the BIG EAST in both total and passing defense en route to the program's first ever bowl berth, a 39-10 victory over Toledo in the Motor City Bowl. The leader of Hughes' defense, Alfred Fincher, became the first Husky drafted in 11 years. The 2006 season saw defensive tackle Rhema Fuller become the first Husky to ever be a finalist for the Draddy Trophy. Before coming to UConn, Hughes was the defensive line coach at the University of Memphis from 1998-2000. The Tigers finished the 2000 season as the No. 1 rated defense in Division I-A against the run (72.7 rushing yards allowed per game), fifth in the nation in total defense (275.3 yards per game) and 14th in scoring defense (18.1 points allowed per game). That little snippet is from Warrior10 in the Hughes Thread. Quote Link to comment
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