NM11046 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 This absolutely terrifies me. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Remember the "Obama apology tour?" Funny story.... OMFG!!!!!!! That is priceless. So....now.....we have evangelicals supporting a molester who has cheated on at least 3 wives. We also have right wingers who ranted and raved about how horrible Obama was for his "apology tour" and now we have Trump doing the same thing. Damn this election is fun to watch......when you can so blatantly see people totally brainwashed. Trust me.....it's not nearly as much fun for us conservatives watching our movement implode and seeing many of the people we respected sell out so easily. The list of people I will never listen to again and the list of people I will never vote for in a future Republican primary have gotten quite long. What people are you specifically talking about? There have been some people during this that I also have realized I will never support again. It's possible we are talking about different people. Quick list of people will not listen to again: Fox News, Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Ingraham Quick list of people I will not support in future Republican Primary/Caucus (I caucused for Rubio this year): Anyone who endorsed Trump. Yes, that includes Rubio, Cruz et al. I Will admit, some would have a chance to earn back my vote. That chance is inversely related to how strongly and early they endorsed Trump. Huckabee would have less chance than Cruz who would have a less chance than Rubio. Pence is someone I used to really like. Judgement matters, I can't envision ever supporting him in a Republican primary. I really respect this. 3 Link to comment
zoogs Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 This really resonated. It was like I was reading some of the posters here. Really well stated -- both this woman's tweets and the author's response: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/the-tweet-storm-that-should-terrify-the-republican-party/503771/ Earlier this week, on Twitter, she told her followers why she’s fed up with Republican men who refuse to follow her out the door. Her tweetstorm went viral and attracted kind words from Senator Lindsey Graham and third party candidate Evan McMullin. It was also excerpted at The Weekly Standard. It’s worth your attention, too. See her series of 17 tweets starting here. 3 Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 The last line of that tweetstorm: "And when it’s all said and done, all you’ll have left is the party The Left always accused you of being." That's a tough, but convicting, allegation. 7 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 This absolutely terrifies me. I cannot get it to play - what did he/it say Link to comment
Undone Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I honestly wish Romney would have gotten the libertarian nomination as I think he would have won the election. Mitt Romney? Are you familiar with the tennets of Libertarianism? 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 This absolutely terrifies me. I cannot get it to play - what did he/it say You really need to find it and watch the entire video. Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Because Newt is a paragon of virtue... Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Remember the "Obama apology tour?" Funny story.... OMFG!!!!!!! That is priceless. So....now.....we have evangelicals supporting a molester who has cheated on at least 3 wives. We also have right wingers who ranted and raved about how horrible Obama was for his "apology tour" and now we have Trump doing the same thing. Damn this election is fun to watch......when you can so blatantly see people totally brainwashed. Trust me.....it's not nearly as much fun for us conservatives watching our movement implode and seeing many of the people we respected sell out so easily. The list of people I will never listen to again and the list of people I will never vote for in a future Republican primary have gotten quite long. What people are you specifically talking about? There have been some people during this that I also have realized I will never support again. It's possible we are talking about different people. Quick list of people will not listen to again: Fox News, Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Ingraham Quick list of people I will not support in future Republican Primary/Caucus (I caucused for Rubio this year): Anyone who endorsed Trump. Yes, that includes Rubio, Cruz et al. I Will admit, some would have a chance to earn back my vote. That chance is inversely related to how strongly and early they endorsed Trump. Huckabee would have less chance than Cruz who would have a less chance than Rubio. Pence is someone I used to really like. Judgement matters, I can't envision ever supporting him in a Republican primary. I was disappointed that Pence didn't walk all the way off the gang plank and jumped the ship after the Trump film came out. However, I see where some of these guys are. I have great respect for my congressman, however, he was never a Trump supporter but is now in a difficult position. He has to support Trump, not because he is a savior of some kind but because Clinton is a radical left wing ideologue. He and the other Repubs are placed between a rock and a hard place and must decide between support for someone as bad as Trump or surrender to someone who is totally opposed to their values. They see Trump as the only one of these candidates who will appoint (or so he says - he has a list of possible SC appointees) conservative judges. Cruz, Rubio, etc see a Hillary presidency as a SC disaster in waiting. Thus they have no other choice. If these guys had run a better campaign of exposing Trump and instead of just waiting for him to implode - we wouldn't have been in this situation. As a conservative repub (still registered as one but wondering ....) I feel that tension and as Knapp said before that "Team" mentality gets us into trouble. I sure won't vote for Hillary- & yet I can't vote for Trump. So, I have the freedom to vote 3rd party - an easy choice in a state that won't vote for Hillary. These congressman/senators don't get the same freedom. Oh yes, they could walk into the voting booth and secretly vote for someone else, but in public, they have to support the lessor of 2 evils when it comes to those values - SC, Conservative principles, etc - recognizing that Trump is not a conservative but the lessor of a liberal than Hillary. Yes, there are more moderate Repubs who have no problems to jump ship and vote for Hillary. Of course that brings up another valid argument - what if the more conservative candidate is so bad that one has to take the unusual choice of supporting a more liberal candidate (speaking from a Conservative perspective). If that more liberal candidate was more trustworthy and more palatable than Hillary, than I'd say vote for the liberal person. Both Trump and Hillary have huge negatives. If this was an election between Trump and Biden - Biden would be running away with it. I've voted for liberal dems who were of good character and demeanor (state elections and local elections) over Repubs who were less qualified both in character and/or experience. I understand what you are saying; especially with the elected officials, since some are probably bound by party rules to support the nominee. Two points I would make are: 1) At some point, someone is such a bad nominee that you can't vote for them. Trust me, I have many times "plugged my nose" and voted for the least worst candidate. However, with Trump (and Clinton), it is much different. Trump is a man who very early in the process said that our troops would follow his orders and commit war crimes because he "is a good leader." To me, and I would hope to most, that is a disqualifying statement. 2) When it comes to the Supreme Court; if Clinton wins, we probably lose 1 conservative seat (Scalia's). The only other retirement I see in the next four years would be Ginsburg. I know it stinks to lose the 1, but quite honestly, given the fact that Trump will say whatever the crowd he is speaking to wants to hear, I'm not convinced that his SC justice picks would be any better, anyway. 2 Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Even if I lived in the biggest swing state in the Union, I still wouldn't vote for Trump or Hillary. These people all have the ability to do what is right. They don't give a flying rats ass about the Supreme court or what ever. They are trying their best to save their asses in there jobs. Take Deb Fisher. First denounces Trump but then, I'm sure she got flooded with emails from people from western Nebraska threatening more than just to not vote for her...so....now she is trying to save face and claim she is still going to vote for him and support him. BU** SH**......That woman will never get my vote again. I will guarantee you Sasse will not win reelection because he didn't support Trump. I have one hell of a lot more respect for him than I ever will Fisher. Sometimes the moral thing to do goes above and beyond saving your ass in your seat in Washington. The people we are talking about are failing miserably at that. Agree 100 % with bolded Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Remember the "Obama apology tour?" Funny story.... OMFG!!!!!!! That is priceless. So....now.....we have evangelicals supporting a molester who has cheated on at least 3 wives. We also have right wingers who ranted and raved about how horrible Obama was for his "apology tour" and now we have Trump doing the same thing. Damn this election is fun to watch......when you can so blatantly see people totally brainwashed. Trust me.....it's not nearly as much fun for us conservatives watching our movement implode and seeing many of the people we respected sell out so easily. The list of people I will never listen to again and the list of people I will never vote for in a future Republican primary have gotten quite long. What people are you specifically talking about? There have been some people during this that I also have realized I will never support again. It's possible we are talking about different people. Quick list of people will not listen to again: Fox News, Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Ingraham Quick list of people I will not support in future Republican Primary/Caucus (I caucused for Rubio this year): Anyone who endorsed Trump. Yes, that includes Rubio, Cruz et al. I Will admit, some would have a chance to earn back my vote. That chance is inversely related to how strongly and early they endorsed Trump. Huckabee would have less chance than Cruz who would have a less chance than Rubio. Pence is someone I used to really like. Judgement matters, I can't envision ever supporting him in a Republican primary. I was disappointed that Pence didn't walk all the way off the gang plank and jumped the ship after the Trump film came out. However, I see where some of these guys are. I have great respect for my congressman, however, he was never a Trump supporter but is now in a difficult position. He has to support Trump, not because he is a savior of some kind but because Clinton is a radical left wing ideologue. He and the other Repubs are placed between a rock and a hard place and must decide between support for someone as bad as Trump or surrender to someone who is totally opposed to their values. They see Trump as the only one of these candidates who will appoint (or so he says - he has a list of possible SC appointees) conservative judges. Cruz, Rubio, etc see a Hillary presidency as a SC disaster in waiting. Thus they have no other choice. If these guys had run a better campaign of exposing Trump and instead of just waiting for him to implode - we wouldn't have been in this situation. As a conservative repub (still registered as one but wondering ....) I feel that tension and as Knapp said before that "Team" mentality gets us into trouble. I sure won't vote for Hillary- & yet I can't vote for Trump. So, I have the freedom to vote 3rd party - an easy choice in a state that won't vote for Hillary. These congressman/senators don't get the same freedom. Oh yes, they could walk into the voting booth and secretly vote for someone else, but in public, they have to support the lessor of 2 evils when it comes to those values - SC, Conservative principles, etc - recognizing that Trump is not a conservative but the lessor of a liberal than Hillary. Yes, there are more moderate Repubs who have no problems to jump ship and vote for Hillary. Of course that brings up another valid argument - what if the more conservative candidate is so bad that one has to take the unusual choice of supporting a more liberal candidate (speaking from a Conservative perspective). If that more liberal candidate was more trustworthy and more palatable than Hillary, than I'd say vote for the liberal person. Both Trump and Hillary have huge negatives. If this was an election between Trump and Biden - Biden would be running away with it. I've voted for liberal dems who were of good character and demeanor (state elections and local elections) over Repubs who were less qualified both in character and/or experience. I understand what you are saying; especially with the elected officials, since some are probably bound by party rules to support the nominee. Two points I would make are: 1) At some point, someone is such a bad nominee that you can't vote for them. Trust me, I have many times "plugged my nose" and voted for the least worst candidate. However, with Trump (and Clinton), it is much different. Trump is a man who very early in the process said that our troops would follow his orders and commit war crimes because he "is a good leader." To me, and I would hope to most, that is a disqualifying statement. 2) When it comes to the Supreme Court; if Clinton wins, we probably lose 1 conservative seat (Scalia's). The only other retirement I see in the next four years would be Ginsburg. I know it stinks to lose the 1, but quite honestly, given the fact that Trump will say whatever the crowd he is speaking to wants to hear, I'm not convinced that his SC justice picks would be any better, anyway. I am so sick and tired of the fear mongering from the right of...."Oh, if Hillary wins America will be irreparably changed forever with her agenda to destroy everything that is good". Yes...I disagree with her on policies. But, spare me the friggen fear mongering while you are supporting a sex offender/predator. 2 Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 This really resonated. It was like I was reading some of the posters here. Really well stated -- both this woman's tweets and the author's response: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/the-tweet-storm-that-should-terrify-the-republican-party/503771/ Earlier this week, on Twitter, she told her followers why she’s fed up with Republican men who refuse to follow her out the door. Her tweetstorm went viral and attracted kind words from Senator Lindsey Graham and third party candidate Evan McMullin. It was also excerpted at The Weekly Standard. It’s worth your attention, too. See her series of 17 tweets starting here. Wow. That is devastating; and 100 % right. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 If anyone follows Farenholdt on twitter he's got some good stuff going on this evening ... looks like the largest gift the Trump Foundation ever gave was given to refurbish a fountain outside his hotel ... and was split into two different donations listed as coming from his for profit business. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/786618579445751808 https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/786619021856796672 No, no he doesn't. Unless he has recordings of every second in his Florida house from 2005. Or video of the elevator incident. And there is absolutely no way to prove he didn't walk into those locker rooms unless the locker rooms were illegally recorded. Or he has recordings of those women saying they're lying. There's no way he has any of this. He's lied about literally everything else he's ever said or "changed his mind." The appropriate time is after he's elected president I'm sure. I've heard it's coming out at the same time as the tax returns. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 "Take a look, you take a look, look at her, look at her words -- you tell me what you think. I don't think so," Trump said at his rally. So Trump's argument is that he wouldn't assault her because she's ugly. And he thinks that's a good argument. It's not. That said Link to comment
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