VectorVictor Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Fru said: Guess we'll know who will be playing William Barr in the biopic movies about this f****d-up Presidency. 5 Link to comment
Fru Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: Man, that is spot on. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Fru said: Nah. John Goodman's got this part. 2 Link to comment
schriznoeder Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 So, he's angry at the constitution for being constitutional? 1 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 hours ago, schriznoeder said: So, he's angry at the constitution for being constitutional? You'd be mad too if all your "friends" wanted to take their ball and go home. 1 Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 It is my understanding that Congress can undo a state of emergency with a veto proof resolution. Let’s see how this plays out on the right. 2 1 Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: It is my understanding that Congress can undo a state of emergency with a veto proof resolution. Let’s see how this plays out on the right. It's troubling because if they don't suppress it, it sets a legal precedent that future Presidents can then use. When Donald and his ilk are ejected from office, that is going to bite them in the a$$. But the misuse of those powers is setting up the office of President for being a jumping off point for totalitarianism as well, regardless of party affiliation. I guess the question is, what does the modern day GOP care for more--the future of Democracy and this country, or sucking at the financial teat of Putin and Russian oligarchs at the expense of our country's sovereignty and future? 4 Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Fru said: Man, that is spot on. Thanks. The first thing I saw is how that looks like what Nathan Lane would appear as a statesman. Second thing I saw is that I hope he looks as good as Nathan Lane in drag when his a$$ is sent to PMITA Federal Prison in the near future. 3 Link to comment
Ulty Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: Thanks. The first thing I saw is how that looks like what Nathan Lane would appear as a statesman. Second thing I saw is that I hope he looks as good as Nathan Lane in drag when his a$$ is sent to PMITA Federal Prison in the near future. +1 for working in a Birdcage reference and Office Space reference in the same post! 2 Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: It's troubling because if they don't suppress it, it sets a legal precedent that future Presidents can then use. When Donald and his ilk are ejected from office, that is going to bite them in the a$$. But the misuse of those powers is setting up the office of President for being a jumping off point for totalitarianism as well. I guess the question is, what does the modern day GOP care for more--the future of Democracy and this country, or sucking at the financial teat of Putin and Russian oligarchs at the expense of our country's sovereignty and future? I completely agree. I don't want Democrats to wield this type of power anymore than I want Republicans. 3 Link to comment
schriznoeder Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: It is my understanding that Congress can undo a state of emergency with a veto proof resolution. Let’s see how this plays out on the right. 42 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: It's troubling because if they don't suppress it, it sets a legal precedent that future Presidents can then use. When Donald and his ilk are ejected from office, that is going to bite them in the a$$. But the misuse of those powers is setting up the office of President for being a jumping off point for totalitarianism as well. I guess the question is, what does the modern day GOP care for more--the future of Democracy and this country, or sucking at the financial teat of Putin and Russian oligarchs at the expense of our country's sovereignty and future? 34 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: I completely agree. I don't want Democrats to wield this type of power anymore than I want Republicans. If Trump's plans get overridden, he's going to have the mother of all meltdowns. And I'll love every minute of it. BUT, it sounds like the "undoing" process has to go through the normal legislative procedures. Per an article from Quartz... "Congress can also end presidential national emergencies—if both the Houses and Senate agree by simple majority. A president’s veto of Congress’s refusal could be overridden only if there is a two-thirds majority in both chambers." A Trump national emergency will face immediate legal challenges from Congress Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, schriznoeder said: If Trump's plans get overridden, he's going to have the mother of all meltdowns. And I'll love every minute of it. BUT, it sounds like the "undoing" process has to go through the normal legislative procedures. Per an article from Quartz... "Congress can also end presidential national emergencies—if both the Houses and Senate agree by simple majority. A president’s veto of Congress’s refusal could be overridden only if there is a two-thirds majority in both chambers." A Trump national emergency will face immediate legal challenges from Congress That's what I read this morning as well. That's why I said I want to see how things play out on the right. Do they have the courage to finally put an end to this mass overreach? 3 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 So Trump will create another constitutional crisis in order to push his project to completion. I wonder how many Russian companies (wt USA holdings) will be involved in building said wall. Trump is so dogmatic about this that I can't help but think there is a powerful hand pushing him to make this the hill he wants to die on. Personally, I believe in the need for a border wall - - but I prefer boarder security which involves more than just a wall. A wall is just one component. However, Trump sees the wall as the only component as it appears the monument he wants to build for himself is one that will rival the Great Wall of China. Regarding financing the wall. Ted Cruz has come up with his novel (unworkable) idea. https://www.univision.com/univision-news/opinion/experts-call-ted-cruzs-plan-to-fund-border-wall-with-chapos-drug-money-delusional Link to comment
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