BigRedBuster Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said: It's not my fault you contradict yourself every election cycle. Biden supported the war in Iraq and worked to make it happen. Then he was against it. Then Biden wanted to trisect Iraq. Then Biden wanted to make a quick withdrawal. Then ISIS happened on Obama-Biden watch. fyi we are energy independent (no thanks to the dynamic duo, Biden doesn't remember if he supports fracking). Whatever oil you're talking about was not going to be sold in the USA. Well, you contradict yourself in the same cycle. You're supporting a guy who criticizes the military brass for lining the pockets of the military industrial complex....meanwhile...that's exactly what HE has done and brags about it constantly. I'm sure as a good republican back when Bush was going into Iraq, you were speaking out against it. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said: It's not my fault you contradict yourself every election cycle. Biden supported the war in Iraq and worked to make it happen. Then he was against it. Then Biden wanted to trisect Iraq. Then Biden wanted to make a quick withdrawal. Then ISIS happened on Obama-Biden watch. fyi we are energy independent (no thanks to the dynamic duo, Biden doesn't remember if he supports fracking). Whatever oil you're talking about was not going to be sold in the USA. Link Quote Trump has a hard time getting past a September 2002 interview with shock jock Howard Stern. Stern asked Trump if he supported the looming invasion. Trump responded, "Yeah, I guess so." Trump dialed that back a bit in another interview in January 2003, a few months before the invasion. Fox News’ Neil Cavuto asked Trump whether President George W. Bush should be more focused on Iraq or the economy. "Well, he has either got to do something or not do something, perhaps, because perhaps shouldn't be doing it yet and perhaps we should be waiting for the United Nations, you know," Trump said. "He's under a lot of pressure. I think he's doing a very good job. But, of course, if you look at the polls, a lot of people are getting a little tired. I think the Iraqi situation is a problem. And I think the economy is a much bigger problem as far as the president is concerned." So Trump put the economy ahead of confronting Iraq, but he didn’t speak against going to war. At most he suggested waiting for the United Nations to do something. ----- Trump has been challenged many times in this election to explain his early acceptance of the war. In a February 2016 interview on NBC’s Meet the Press, Trump said that he didn’t know what he meant during his 2002 conversation with Stern. "That was a long time ago, and who knows what was in my head." Trump said. Must be nice to just go as the wind blows on this stuff and then lie about it afterward. He's quite good as a windsock. I'm guessing this is just fake news or somesuch to you. But it's a testament to how badly Trump is choking right now that his dogged supporters are trying to retcon positions he didn't actually have while continuing to lie about Biden's positions. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said: Link Must be nice to just go as the wind blows on this stuff and then lie about it afterward. He's quite good as a windsock. I'm guessing this is just fake news or somesuch to you. But it's a testament to how badly Trump is choking right now that his dogged supporters are trying to retcon positions he didn't actually have while continuing to lie about Biden's positions. @Notre Dame Joe What???? I'm guessing this is all fake news....right? This has to be some made up conspiracy to take down Trump right? I'm shocked....I tell you.....absolutely shocked. Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 ^This is why we need fresh blood in the white house. President Biden can't control these mobs. I bet if Trump was President he could do something about this. 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, QMany said: If true, this could make those numbers less optimistic Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 @Notre Dame Joe he sure is doing a great job of feeding money to the military industrial complex 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Political deep dives into the 8 battle ground states. Trump is only leading in one - Georgia. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/08/swing-states-2020-presidential-election-409000 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Some pollster somewhere told Trump "endless wars" resonates with people so he's going to pretend he hasn't been yammering about rebuilding the military and feeding the beast his entire first term. 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said: It's not my fault you contradict yourself every election cycle. Biden supported the war in Iraq and worked to make it happen. Then he was against it. Then Biden wanted to trisect Iraq. Then Biden wanted to make a quick withdrawal. Then ISIS happened on Obama-Biden watch. I see a lot of bad stuff happening on Trump-Pence's watch. Is that our official burden of proof? Also, apparently a lot of fairly hawkish and oil-friendly stuff happened on the Obama-Biden watch, so you can assure your friends that Biden is nowhere near a socialist lefty. Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Media question: I see all these Lincoln Project videos being shared online. Is that the strategy here? Making it free and viral? Or has anyone seen a Lincoln Project video or ad in a paid advertising format, like broadcast TV? I live in California, where neither party bothered to spend money in 2016, conceding it to Hillary. So I never know what the rest of the country is seeing. Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Well, you contradict yourself in the same cycle. You're supporting a guy who criticizes the military brass for lining the pockets of the military industrial complex....meanwhile...that's exactly what HE has done and brags about it constantly. I'm sure as a good republican back when Bush was going into Iraq, you were speaking out against it. yes 6 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: I see a lot of bad stuff happening on Trump-Pence's watch. Is that our official burden of proof? Also, apparently a lot of fairly hawkish and oil-friendly stuff happened on the Obama-Biden watch, so you can assure your friends that Biden is nowhere near a socialist lefty. President Trump has been consistent with his campaign once in office, not starting foreign engagements and looking for ways to exit the current ones. That's quite rare for a POTUS. Since the 20th Century Presidential candidates usually campaign on not sending American boys to do a job that foreign boys should do for themselves. Then once in office they discover that the world is forcing America to join a war. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said: yes Good for you. The guy you are voting for didn't agree with you. Link to comment
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