Saunders Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The next person who uses "toxic", "cancer", or "Objective(ly)" in this thread is getting banned. 3 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Riley may be a bad coach. He may make poor game decisions. But....I fail to see how he has been toxic. We've seen toxic coaches.....before. I know what you are saying...but toxic doesn't have to mean "bo-like" Toxic can mean having a culture of being okay with being average...it can be even worse. Now, I don't think that MR is toxic, yet, but if he keeps underdelivering and if the fans and administration are "okay" with 7 and 8 wins...that is toxic. Bo actually created a toxic culture of the 9 wins...they (I think) really thought 9 wins was "good enough" 7 minutes ago, saunders45 said: The next person who uses "toxic", "cancer", or "Objective(ly)" in this thread is getting banned. Dang it!!!! NOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment
DrunkOffPunch Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said: ....because if you cheer for Riley to fail...you're cheering for the team to fail as well. You can cheer for the team but hope that next year there's a new head coach in the same way that you can cheer for Lee, but if he keeps throwing interceptions, hope a backup gets some snaps. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, LaunchCode said: False argument. There are no objective stats that are comparable. Different schedules, players, opponents, injuries, ejections, officiating, etc..... We can objectively say Riley inherited a team in much need of talent and depth to compete for a conference title. We can objectively say implementing a new system almost always brings mixed results in the implementation stage. We can objectively say starting a new QB brings mixed results no matter the coach. We can objectively say implementing a new defense under a new DC requires transition time to reach peak performance. We can objectively say Ferentz and Dantonio had much worse starts their first 3 years as Iowa and MSU respectively compared to MR's first three years at Nebraska. They both wen on to have tremendous championship seasons over their next 3 years. But I"m sure you saw that coming at the time right? We can objectively say, Iowa and MSU were rewarded greatly for enduing the building stage and seeing the process through. It remains to be seen if, we have the resolve to do the same. Since I don't want to get banned .... Concerning the "O" word you repeatedly used above" 3 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Nobody thought 9 wins was enough. That’s a straw man argument if I ever saw one. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: Nobody thought 9 wins was enough. That’s a straw man argument if I ever saw one. I think Bo and his staff thought it was enough...I also think TO thought it was enough. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, teachercd said: Toxic can mean having a culture of being okay with being average...it can be even worse. Now, I don't think that MR is toxic, yet, but if he keeps underdelivering and if the fans and administration are "okay" with 7 and 8 wins...that is toxic. Again, I don't know a single Nebraska fan who is okay with 7 and 8 wins, unless they clearly suggest progress towards 10 and 11 wins. ipso facto, nobody is okay with Nebraska staying where it is. 2 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, Mavric said: Since I don't want to get banned .... Concerning the "O" word you repeatedly used above" He knows what it means... he's just implying the other opinions are cray cray. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, teachercd said: I think Bo and his staff thought it was enough...I also think TO thought it was enough. So TO was promptly no a culture of .....meh, that’s good enough?????? BAN him!!!!!! ps.....not even they were ok with 9 wins and getting blown out every year in losses. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 9 wins is definitely enough to defend yourself against people who want to fire you. But subjectively, some of those 9 win seasons under both Pelini and Osborne simply weren't satisfying. And both coaches knew that. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 And ....no.....I have never met or had a conversation with a husker fan who is fine with 7-8 wins. Quote Link to comment
dvdcrr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Mike Riley is not the caliber of coach to restore excellence at Nebraska and he never was. His record at NU , as well as before NU a combined 175-168. His teams fail to impress the eye, as well as the record book. And all blind supporters of Mike Riley are complicit in his bringing the Nebraska football team to the point of pure mediocrity. And his failure is shameful. He has failed our athletes, and our fans. We have 30 games to base our opinion, that is enough for a tiger to show his stripes, or to tuck his tail. Actions speak louder than words. He cannot grasp or does not care about the tradition of NU. The tradition of being the most physical, most well trained and highest motivated team in the country. NU, where we have more combined Outland/ Lombardi award winners than any other school. NU where the Rimington Trophy is named after a Husker. To Riley and supporters Husker Pride, Traditions and Excellence are cliche' To the rest of us these are the things that make a HUSKER. 3 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Who is blindly supporting him? Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, dvdcrr said: Mike Riley is not the caliber of coach to restore excellence at Nebraska and he never was. His record at NU , as well as before NU a combined 175-168. His teams fail to impress the eye, as well as the record book. And all blind supporters of Mike Riley are complicit in his bringing the Nebraska football team to the point of pure mediocrity. And his failure is shameful. He has failed our athletes, and our fans. We have 30 games to base our opinion, that is enough for a tiger to show his stripes, or to tuck his tail. Actions speak louder than words. He cannot grasp or does not care about the tradition of NU. The tradition of being the most physical, most well trained and highest motivated team in the country. NU, where we have more combined Outland/ Lombardi award winners than any other school. NU where the Rimington Trophy is named after a Husker. To Riley and supporters Husker Pride, Traditions and Excellence are cliche' To the rest of us these are the things that make a HUSKER. As many posters have mentioned, no one is blindly supporting Riley. 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Who is blindly supporting him? Apparently 95% of the board 3 Quote Link to comment
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