4skers89 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Good to know the next coach will have players that had decent offer lists. Am I missing something 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, knapplc said: Something that has been bugging me since we walked out of Memorial Stadium on Saturday. If you switched Nebraska's & Wisconsin's offensive lines, who wins that game? Guarantee you it's us, and we'd likely be undefeated right now. It really comes down to five players right now. Possibly. If we switched offensive lines and OCs, definitely. We have been able to successfully run the ball when we actually try and call a competent running game. Our third-string running back had almost 100 yards at halftime despite an incredibly predictable set of play calls against a pretty decent rushing defense. But Langsdorf was still calling pass plays over 57% of the time despite only completing 50%. And calling a lot of straight-ahead runs. 4 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I don't really follow recruiting but by the format alone you can tell this guy has an agenda. Of course it looks lopsided for the future when you list only the one best offer for the current starter and a whole laundry list of offers for the future guy. IMO offers don't mean sh#t anyway. The real story is what the staff does with the guys they put on the field. We know how that's going. I'll eat my hat if somebody tries to tell me our woes are talent based and the other teams in the B1G West that handle us are recruiting that much better than us. If the story is that Riley will do better in the future with even more of his guys, I hate to break it to ya but this is his 3rd year and he has mostly his guys or Bo guys that he has coached for 2+ years, his quarterback, his offensive system......so why are things trending down instead of up this year? Talent? Bullsh#t. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 36 minutes ago, Red Five said: Riley isn't some recruiting genius (although I will admit that our recruiting social media presence is top shelf). He is recruiting at roughly the same level as Bo on average. See Mav's handy chart: Class Average Recruits (# 4*+) 02 .8316 18 (2) 03 .8316 19 (2) 04 .8237 20 (2) 05* .8523 32 (7) 06* .8493 22 (5) 07* .8587 26 (6) 08 .8449 29 (3) 09 .8580 19 (2) 10* .8642 20 (5) 11 .8832 21 (9) 12 .8773 17 (8) 13 .8655 24 (7) 14 .8601 25 (2) 15 .8617 21 (4) 16 .8707 21 (5) 17 .8758 20 (5) Was going to say the same thing. Riley, per popular opinion, isn't killing as well on the recruiting trail as people would think....One could also read the above that Bo left Riley with "more" talent. Of course thats the raw numbers not taking into account transfers, guys who never played a down etc....I do thing the recruiting PR is doing a much better job selling the "big gets", but the end of the day we aren't bringing in top 15 classes.....Although we are recruiting better than the West and all but 3-4 teams in the East the W-L isn't showing this.... The other baffling thing (roster mismanagement?) is that guys like Decker and Jaimes, Stilles, who appear to "play better", wouldn't have seen the field without injuries... 1 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mavric said: Possibly. If we switched offensive lines and OCs, definitely. We have been able to successfully run the ball when we actually try and call a competent running game. Our third-string running back had almost 100 yards at halftime despite an incredibly predictable set of play calls against a pretty decent rushing defense. But Langsdorf was still calling pass plays over 57% of the time despite only completing 50%. And calling a lot of straight-ahead runs. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I’m stuck at the 7 year olds school program, so..... Somobody do Wisconsin’s roster compared to ours. Methinks there won’t be much difference. 1 Quote Link to comment
Branno Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Mavric said: Possibly. If we switched offensive lines and OCs, definitely. We have been able to successfully run the ball when we actually try and call a competent running game. Our third-string running back had almost 100 yards at halftime despite an incredibly predictable set of play calls against a pretty decent rushing defense. But Langsdorf was still calling pass plays over 57% of the time despite only completing 50%. And calling a lot of straight-ahead runs. I've been noticing the straight-ahead runs more and more. We'll run to the outside and get a ton of yards, but then the next 3-4 run plays are all straight up the middle into a stacked box. It's like Langs is running the ball because he's being told to, and wants to get fewer yards so he can call more passing plays. I don't believe that's what he's doing, but there has to be a reason for it. Quote Link to comment
ADS Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Still think we needed to take some JUCO’s along the lines and in the secondary within the last few recruiting cycles. Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Football Guy Bob said: Still think we needed to take some JUCO’s along the lines and in the secondary within the last few recruiting cycles. Couldn't have hurt. Has this staff taken any JUCO guys? Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, knapplc said: Something that has been bugging me since we walked out of Memorial Stadium on Saturday. If you switched Nebraska's & Wisconsin's offensive lines, who wins that game? Guarantee you it's us, and we'd likely be undefeated right now. It really comes down to five players right now. I'd agree with that. So fire Cav, and throw a suitcase of money at an elite O-line coach is a good start if Riley stays. 1 Quote Link to comment
ADS Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, GSG said: Couldn't have hurt. Has this staff taken any JUCO guys? No, barely offered any until this year. A JUCO tightend would have also helped. 1 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, knapplc said: Whereas Wisconsin's Line is the current closest thing to our old Pipeline days. It's at once great and sad to watch. Said this after the game. "I saw a ghost in Memorial Stadium tonight" 2 Quote Link to comment
Isle of View Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, knapplc said: Something that has been bugging me since we walked out of Memorial Stadium on Saturday. If you switched Nebraska's & Wisconsin's offensive lines, who wins that game? Guarantee you it's us, and we'd likely be undefeated right now. It really comes down to five players right now. Not if our five had several years with the Wisconsin staff and their five had several years with our staff. According to 24/7, here's what Wisconsin started on the O-line: Biadasz 3* .8405 Dietzen 3* .8898 Edwards 3* .8600 Deiter 3* .8328 Benzschawel 3* .8144 Nebraska started: Jaimes 3* .8797 Decker 3* .8543 Farmer 4* .9021 Gates 4* .8929 Foster 3* .8874 6 Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, In the Deed the Glory said: Said this after the game. "I saw a ghost in Memorial Stadium tonight" That's beautiful, troubadour.... Quote Link to comment
jessica0 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 This kind of analysis doesn't prove anything. All it shows is that young players are not getting developed as they enter the program. The data is also combining years of classes together (some not even signed) to try and push an agenda. You can compile 4 recruiting classes for any school and make the right column look like that. 2 Quote Link to comment
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