teachercd Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ZRod said: Autocorrect's version of role models. Why would it autocorrect role models? Were you trying to spell it as one word? (I ducking do that with nevermind) Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, ZRod said: Autocorrect's version of role models. So young people aren't heavily influenced by the environment created by the adults around them. Got it. What was it you were saying about idiotic notions? 2 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, B.B. Hemingway said: Lol. You're one to talk. The so called "plights" of white people are routinely mocked by liberals and across most media platforms. Usually while throwing their alleged "white privilege" in their face. I'm consistent on accountability. It applies to blacks, whites and everyone in between. Poverty doesn't excuse drug use, or any other crime. You're consistent, but your not. You always only seem to have a problem, or only point out the problems, with one group. There is no such thing as white plight. It's demonstrably better to be white in this country by almost every single statistic. Of course there are problems in predominantly white communities; but unless we're talking about a specific groups like Irish, Polish, Jewish, etc. those problems don't exists as a direct result of racism and civil injustices that are less 15, 20, 30, 40 years old. 4 Link to comment
ZRod Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said: So young people aren't heavily influenced by the environment created by the adults around them. Got it. We should probably alert every psychologist ever. What was it you were saying about idiotic notions? When's the last time you brought up alcoholism, drug use, or misogyny in country music? Because if I remember right you pointed out some things about rap/hip-hop in the past (which is actually a multicultural genre, but that's another topic) and country music is full of it too. Never heard you say anything about a white NBA player's opinions... 2 Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ZRod said: You're consistent, but your not. You always only seem to have a problem, or only point out the problems, with one group. There is no such thing as white plight. It's demonstrably better to be white in this country by almost every single statistic. Of course there are problems in predominantly white communities; but unless we're talking about a specific groups like Irish, Polish, Jewish, etc. those problems don't exists as a direct result of racism and civil injustices that are less 15, 20, 30, 40 years old. Again, it's because excuses/defenses are made for one group. If you start a thread about how drug problems in rural white communities are someone else's fault besides their own, I'll argue against it as well. 2 Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, ZRod said: When's the last time you brought up alcoholism, drug use, or misogyny in country music? Because if I remember right you pointed out some things about rap/hip-hop in the past (which is actually a multicultural genre, but that's another topic) and country music is full of it too. Never heard you say anything about a white NBA player's opinions... Lol. Country music misogyny might as well be a nursery rhyme compared to rap music. You're *actually* trying to equate those two genres from that perspective? Are you high? Are white NBA players allowed to voice their opinions if they don't toe the company's racial line? 2 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, B.B. Hemingway said: Again, it's because excuses/defenses are made for one group. If you start a thread about how drug problems in rural white communities are someone else's fault besides their own, I'll argue against it as well. Because nobody made laws specifically against white people 50 years ago!!!! 2 1 Link to comment
Enhance Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said: Again, it's because excuses/defenses are made for one group. If you start a thread about how drug problems in rural white communities are someone else's fault besides their own, I'll argue against it as well. The exact issues you're harping on black people for are prevalent in impoverished minority groups nationwide and worldwide. No rational person makes this a "black" person thing. They just happen to be one of the groups most impacted. America has spent hundreds of years dunking on black people, even after slavery ended. It is remarkably tone deaf to make this a them problem (or make it seem like they're the only ones making excuses for it) when our country fostered the predicament in the first place. 2 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said: Lol. Country music misogyny might as well be a nursery rhyme compared to rap music. You're *actually* trying to equate those two genres from that perspective? Are you high? Are white NBA players allowed to voice their opinions if they don't toe the company's racial line? Quote Uh, uh I got that real good, feel good stuff Up under the seat of my big black jacked up truck Rollin' on thirty-fives Pretty girl by my side You got that sun tan skirt and boots Waitin' on you to look my way and scoot Your little hot self over here Girl, hand me another beer, yeah All them other boys wanna wine you up and take you downtown But you look like the kind that likes to take it way out Out where the corn rows grow, row, row my boat Floatin' down the Flint River Catch us up a little catfish dinner Gonna sound like a winner When I lay you down and love you right Yeah, that's my kind of night (Oh) Might sit down on my diamond plate tailgate Put in my country-rock hip-hop mixtape Little Conway, a little T-Pain Might just make it rain (make it rain) You can hang your T-shirt on a limb Hit that bank and we can ease on in Soak us up a little moonlight You know I know what you like, yeah Quote Yeah Yeah Yeah Your man on the road, he doin' promo You said, "Keep our business on the low-low" I'm just tryna get you out the friend zone 'Cause you look even better than the photos I can't find your house, send me the info Drivin' through the gated residential Found out I was comin', sent your friends home Keep on tryna hide it, but your friends know I only call you when it's half-past five The only time that I'll be by your side I only love it when you touch me, not feel me When I'm f#&%ed up, that's the real me When I'm f#&%ed up, that's the real me, yeah I only call you when it's half-past five The only time I'd ever call you mine I only love it when you touch me, not feel me When I'm f#&%ed up, that's the real me When I'm f#&%ed up, that's the real me, babe I'ma let you know and keep it simple Tryna keep it up don't seem so simple I just f#&%ed two b!^@hes 'fore I saw you And you gon' have to do it at my tempo Always tryna send me off to rehab Drugs started feelin' like it's decaf I'm just tryna live life for the moment And all these motherf#&%ers want a relapse I guess because one explicitly says f#&% and talks about drugs instead of alcohol it's way worse even though the woman is clearly an object in the other. I picked out a pop country song I know and like, or you actually want me to pull out the f#&%ed up country music? Tell you what. Wanna just do rock instead of country since it's dominanted by white dudes too? 1 Link to comment
admo Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 23 hours ago, teachercd said: Can you tell me what "environment" means? Many things, but to me and some folks, it's yo surroundings, up bringing, culture, fam and city blocks. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Enhance said: The exact issues you're harping on black people for are prevalent in impoverished minority groups nationwide and worldwide. No rational person makes this a "black" person thing. They just happen to be one of the groups most impacted. America has spent hundreds of years dunking on black people, even after slavery ended. It is remarkably tone deaf to make this a them problem (or make it seem like they're the only ones making excuses for it) when our country fostered the predicament in the first place. At some point personal responsibility has to kick in instead relying on the my grandparents and great grandparents did not have an equal opportunity to achieve the American Dream. When does that excuse no longer apply and becomes up to the individual and their family to better the next generations economic standing? Same stuff applies to Appalachia, small town Ohio/PA, western KS, etc. People need to figure it out that they want to be something in life instead of accepting some preconceived notion that there isn’t anything better for them in the world. 1 Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, ZRod said: I guess because one explicitly says f#&% and talks about drugs instead of alcohol it's way worse even though the woman is clearly an object in the other. I picked out a pop country song I know and like, or you actually want me to pull out the f#&%ed up country music? I'm not gonna sit here and play a lyric game with you, mainly because I'd get banned if I started posting rap lyrics. Yeah, there's a difference between having sex with your significant other, while having a few beers, compared to the sexual assault, degrading lyrics you'll find in rap music. This is just a moronic argument to have. The misogynistic lyrics found in country music and rap music aren't in anywhere near the same universe. 3 1 Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, Enhance said: The exact issues you're harping on black people for are prevalent in impoverished minority groups nationwide and worldwide. No rational person makes this a "black" person thing. They just happen to be one of the groups most impacted. America has spent hundreds of years dunking on black people, even after slavery ended. It is remarkably tone deaf to make this a them problem (or make it seem like they're the only ones making excuses for it) when our country fostered the predicament in the first place. I haven't denied their predicament. I've only suggested that it doesn't excuse criminal behavior. Nothing about their situation makes them, or any race of poor people, make bad decisions. Despite their environment, making good decisions is always an available avenue. And despite the pass zrod is willing to give rap music, it definitely fantasizes that lifestyle. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: At some point personal responsibility has to kick in instead relying on the my grandparents and great grandparents did not have an equal opportunity to achieve the American Dream. When does that excuse no longer apply and becomes up to the individual and their family to better the next generations economic standing? Same stuff applies to Appalachia, small town Ohio/PA, western KS, etc. People need to figure it out that they want to be something in life instead of accepting some preconceived notion that there isn’t anything better for them in the world. Children of the Mountains...covers Appalachia, it is really something. 1 Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, teachercd said: Children of the Mountains...covers Appalachia, it is really something. 8 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: At some point personal responsibility has to kick in instead relying on the my grandparents and great grandparents did not have an equal opportunity to achieve the American Dream. When does that excuse no longer apply and becomes up to the individual and their family to better the next generations economic standing? Same stuff applies to Appalachia, small town Ohio/PA, western KS, etc. People need to figure it out that they want to be something in life instead of accepting some preconceived notion that there isn’t anything better for them in the world. Why haven't those white folk cashed in on that privilege?! 1 1 Link to comment
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