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2 hours ago, OTHusker said:

I think a lot of those screaming Russia Russia Russia are going to go down in history like the clinton haters who had Ken Starr expand his probe to get bill on lying about monica

most of America with the exception of the hard right clinton haters, could have cared less

 

just like the clinton haters now look foolish when we look back on this 

so will the Russia Russia Russia crowd

it was wrong then, its wrong now 

 

with the exception of the obsessed trump haters and Msbc folks are going to care 10 years from now

whats going to be remembered was

an expanded probe based on a fake dossier paid for by clinton which paid Russian sources and relied on very scetchy Russians with lots of it proven to be false

 

an fbi that hated trump and was looking for an insurance policy to keep him out

 

It will go down as sour grapes

hillary lost

because she was a lazy flawed corrupt candidate 

and a sizable group of Americans got sick of hearing how awful our country is when In reality most of us are caring, loving , fair and hard working folks 

 

Russia didn’t swing the election with 100 k 

In Facebook adds and a few bots

theyve always meddled

The liberal candidate lost 

As we’ve all done in past elections

we get over it and move on 

 

If anything every American should be fearful that the bare knuckle politics and  fbi would try an end run to circumvent an election or try and invoke the 25 th amendment in a way it was never intended to be used 

Like with bill clinton I don’t even like the guy- trump that is 

but if the shoe was on the other foot this would be playing out much differently as   Always

 

Dont you have better things to be doing, Sean Hannity?

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3 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

Obama's going to go down in history as a pretty decent president, responsible for righting the ship after the disaster of Bush's 2nd term.

 

He's going to shine in comparison to the Russian stooge that followed him.  And the people who voted for and continue to enable 45 by their overt actions and/or silence will have one of the worst legacies in American history. Some people right here on this board are going to be remembered the way we remember McCarthy or Nixon.

 

But hey, let's keep complaining about those darned libs and their affordable healthcare and their tan suits! <shakes fist at sky>

True story

last year took my youngest to dc to see all the monuments museums etc

 

in one of the museums there was a place where you could vote for best president

the vote totals were up in lights 

 

obama was winning by landslide

outpacing 

lincoln

washington

jefferson

Roosevelt

truman 

reagan 

etc etc

 

for doing what?  

 

Ludicrous, just plain ridiculous 

i get everyone including myself hoped for the best, he was our first black president , but the results didn’t equal him beating out 44 other guys 

some true heroic icons with long lists of big achievements 

Blew my mind

obama better than Lincoln or washington

do people not understand our history and choose to ignore it because of feelings and guilt instead of achievements? 

 

 

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2 hours ago, OTHusker said:

I think a lot of those screaming Russia Russia Russia are going to go down in history like the clinton haters who had Ken Starr expand his probe to get bill on lying about monica

most of America with the exception of the hard right clinton haters, could have cared less

 

just like the clinton haters now look foolish when we look back on this 

so will the Russia Russia Russia crowd

it was wrong then, its wrong now 

 

with the exception of the obsessed trump haters and Msbc folks are going to care 10 years from now

whats going to be remembered was

an expanded probe based on a fake dossier paid for by clinton which paid Russian sources and relied on very scetchy Russians with lots of it proven to be false

 

an fbi that hated trump and was looking for an insurance policy to keep him out

 

It will go down as sour grapes

hillary lost

because she was a lazy flawed corrupt candidate 

and a sizable group of Americans got sick of hearing how awful our country is when In reality most of us are caring, loving , fair and hard working folks 

 

Russia didn’t swing the election with 100 k 

In Facebook adds and a few bots

theyve always meddled

The liberal candidate lost 

As we’ve all done in past elections

we get over it and move on 

 

If anything every American should be fearful that the bare knuckle politics and  fbi would try an end run to circumvent an election or try and invoke the 25 th amendment in a way it was never intended to be used 

Like with bill clinton I don’t even like the guy- trump that is 

but if the shoe was on the other foot this would be playing out much differently as   Always

So what if you are wrong and Trump is actually under Russian influence? Would you change your mind? 

 

Also Obama being voted best president is probably more recency bias more than anything. Don't see him as better than some that you named, but I do think he was better than many others.

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9 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

So what if you are wrong and Trump is actually under Russian influence? Would you change your mind? 

 

Also Obama being voted best president is probably more recency bias more than anything. Don't see him as better than some that you named, but I do think he was better than many others.

If recency bias was a huge factor one would think bushs, clinton would be in there

They werent

only kinda recent president in top 6 was Reagan 

 

obama gets elevated and a pass for a lot of reasons not having anything to do with his results as president 

 

trump MPs is an egotistical buffoon but this hateful witch hunt disguised as an investigation is a joke worthy or ridicule of the hateful  fanatics pursuing it

just like those chasing down bill clinton

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1 minute ago, OTHusker said:

If recency bias was a huge factor one would think bushs, clinton would be in there

They werent

only kinda recent president in top 6 was Reagan 

 

obama gets elevated and a pass for a lot of reasons not having anything to do with his results as president 

Well we can agree to disagree. So no answer on Trump and Russia? 

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7 hours ago, OTHusker said:

I think many have zero problem at all with trump shaking up the gop

 

I agree

 

7 hours ago, OTHusker said:

while I think trump is a buffoon I’m glad he shook up the gop

 

 

Me too

 

7 hours ago, OTHusker said:

people are sick of party politics and politicians promising things they choose not to deliver on so they can avoid bad press and avoid making unpopular decisions so they can retain their cushy jobs

 

 

Well said. I am sick of it as well.

 

7 hours ago, OTHusker said:

when the gop had the presidency house and senate they made no progress on trimming spending

 

 

I know. What a failure of leadership and governance by Trump and his party. Reveals their hypocrisy.

 

7 hours ago, OTHusker said:

many conservatives are sick of the double talk and lack of backbone so sick of it they would hold their nose and vote for someone that is blunt and disruptive

 

 

This is true, many conservatives are sick of all of that. Many of them, in addition to that though, are also sick of the sudden sobering realization that their party doesn't actually stand for true conservatism at all, but only stands for it's own power. Those conservatives might be holding their noses and voting for a democrat because being in support of Trump's administration and GOP is unconscionable. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Landlord said:

 

I agree

 

 

 

Me too

 

 

 

Well said. I am sick of it as well.

 

 

 

I know. What a failure of leadership and governance by Trump and his party. Reveals their hypocrisy.

 

 

 

This is true, many conservatives are sick of all of that. Many of them, in addition to that though, are also sick of the sudden sobering realization that their party doesn't actually stand for true conservatism at all, but only stands for it's own power. Those conservatives might be holding their noses and voting for a democrat because being in support of Trump's administration and GOP is unconscionable. 

 

 

I wasn’t even talking about trump

i was talking about the  Bush’s 

 

that is how trump got elected

finally get what you want

then they don’t have the balls to get anything of consequence done 

yes both the republicans and democrats are in it for tenure and power

 

conservatives don’t like their candidates

but they aren’t jumping ship for socialism and becoming the next Venezuela 

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16 minutes ago, Landlord said:

 

 

I know. That was part of what made it so funny and what is revealing the egg on the face of Trump voters who aren't getting anything close to what they hoped.

They got little when they went establishment 

so in desperation they swerved in a very different direction and got same results

because all these politicians just want to keep their jobs

they are all too terified of the liberal bully press and entertainment industrys influence to put their foot down and make unpopular decisions, it would be political suicide 

I see no answers 

Ross Perot was our last legit hope

long time ago now 

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