Ratt Mhule Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, OTHusker said: I think a lot of those screaming Russia Russia Russia are going to go down in history like the clinton haters who had Ken Starr expand his probe to get bill on lying about monica most of America with the exception of the hard right clinton haters, could have cared less just like the clinton haters now look foolish when we look back on this so will the Russia Russia Russia crowd it was wrong then, its wrong now with the exception of the obsessed trump haters and Msbc folks are going to care 10 years from now whats going to be remembered was an expanded probe based on a fake dossier paid for by clinton which paid Russian sources and relied on very scetchy Russians with lots of it proven to be false an fbi that hated trump and was looking for an insurance policy to keep him out It will go down as sour grapes hillary lost because she was a lazy flawed corrupt candidate and a sizable group of Americans got sick of hearing how awful our country is when In reality most of us are caring, loving , fair and hard working folks Russia didn’t swing the election with 100 k In Facebook adds and a few bots theyve always meddled The liberal candidate lost As we’ve all done in past elections we get over it and move on If anything every American should be fearful that the bare knuckle politics and fbi would try an end run to circumvent an election or try and invoke the 25 th amendment in a way it was never intended to be used Like with bill clinton I don’t even like the guy- trump that is but if the shoe was on the other foot this would be playing out much differently as Always Dont you have better things to be doing, Sean Hannity? 1 Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, knapplc said: Obama's going to go down in history as a pretty decent president, responsible for righting the ship after the disaster of Bush's 2nd term. He's going to shine in comparison to the Russian stooge that followed him. And the people who voted for and continue to enable 45 by their overt actions and/or silence will have one of the worst legacies in American history. Some people right here on this board are going to be remembered the way we remember McCarthy or Nixon. But hey, let's keep complaining about those darned libs and their affordable healthcare and their tan suits! <shakes fist at sky> True story last year took my youngest to dc to see all the monuments museums etc in one of the museums there was a place where you could vote for best president the vote totals were up in lights obama was winning by landslide outpacing lincoln washington jefferson Roosevelt truman reagan etc etc for doing what? Ludicrous, just plain ridiculous i get everyone including myself hoped for the best, he was our first black president , but the results didn’t equal him beating out 44 other guys some true heroic icons with long lists of big achievements Blew my mind obama better than Lincoln or washington do people not understand our history and choose to ignore it because of feelings and guilt instead of achievements? 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, OTHusker said: I think a lot of those screaming Russia Russia Russia are going to go down in history like the clinton haters who had Ken Starr expand his probe to get bill on lying about monica most of America with the exception of the hard right clinton haters, could have cared less just like the clinton haters now look foolish when we look back on this so will the Russia Russia Russia crowd it was wrong then, its wrong now with the exception of the obsessed trump haters and Msbc folks are going to care 10 years from now whats going to be remembered was an expanded probe based on a fake dossier paid for by clinton which paid Russian sources and relied on very scetchy Russians with lots of it proven to be false an fbi that hated trump and was looking for an insurance policy to keep him out It will go down as sour grapes hillary lost because she was a lazy flawed corrupt candidate and a sizable group of Americans got sick of hearing how awful our country is when In reality most of us are caring, loving , fair and hard working folks Russia didn’t swing the election with 100 k In Facebook adds and a few bots theyve always meddled The liberal candidate lost As we’ve all done in past elections we get over it and move on If anything every American should be fearful that the bare knuckle politics and fbi would try an end run to circumvent an election or try and invoke the 25 th amendment in a way it was never intended to be used Like with bill clinton I don’t even like the guy- trump that is but if the shoe was on the other foot this would be playing out much differently as Always So what if you are wrong and Trump is actually under Russian influence? Would you change your mind? Also Obama being voted best president is probably more recency bias more than anything. Don't see him as better than some that you named, but I do think he was better than many others. 1 Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: So what if you are wrong and Trump is actually under Russian influence? Would you change your mind? Also Obama being voted best president is probably more recency bias more than anything. Don't see him as better than some that you named, but I do think he was better than many others. If recency bias was a huge factor one would think bushs, clinton would be in there They werent only kinda recent president in top 6 was Reagan obama gets elevated and a pass for a lot of reasons not having anything to do with his results as president trump MPs is an egotistical buffoon but this hateful witch hunt disguised as an investigation is a joke worthy or ridicule of the hateful fanatics pursuing it just like those chasing down bill clinton 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, OTHusker said: If recency bias was a huge factor one would think bushs, clinton would be in there They werent only kinda recent president in top 6 was Reagan obama gets elevated and a pass for a lot of reasons not having anything to do with his results as president Well we can agree to disagree. So no answer on Trump and Russia? Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Look how quickly a conservative complains when they discover their views unexpectedly make them a minority. Link to comment
Landlord Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 hours ago, OTHusker said: I think many have zero problem at all with trump shaking up the gop I agree 7 hours ago, OTHusker said: while I think trump is a buffoon I’m glad he shook up the gop Me too 7 hours ago, OTHusker said: people are sick of party politics and politicians promising things they choose not to deliver on so they can avoid bad press and avoid making unpopular decisions so they can retain their cushy jobs Well said. I am sick of it as well. 7 hours ago, OTHusker said: when the gop had the presidency house and senate they made no progress on trimming spending I know. What a failure of leadership and governance by Trump and his party. Reveals their hypocrisy. 7 hours ago, OTHusker said: many conservatives are sick of the double talk and lack of backbone so sick of it they would hold their nose and vote for someone that is blunt and disruptive This is true, many conservatives are sick of all of that. Many of them, in addition to that though, are also sick of the sudden sobering realization that their party doesn't actually stand for true conservatism at all, but only stands for it's own power. Those conservatives might be holding their noses and voting for a democrat because being in support of Trump's administration and GOP is unconscionable. 1 Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Nebfanatic See above those going down that persecution path will be tossed onto the ash heap of history just like the bill clinton haters unless you’re one of the msnbc trump needs to die a slow death people and don’t care Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Landlord said: I agree Me too Well said. I am sick of it as well. I know. What a failure of leadership and governance by Trump and his party. Reveals their hypocrisy. This is true, many conservatives are sick of all of that. Many of them, in addition to that though, are also sick of the sudden sobering realization that their party doesn't actually stand for true conservatism at all, but only stands for it's own power. Those conservatives might be holding their noses and voting for a democrat because being in support of Trump's administration and GOP is unconscionable. I wasn’t even talking about trump i was talking about the Bush’s that is how trump got elected finally get what you want then they don’t have the balls to get anything of consequence done yes both the republicans and democrats are in it for tenure and power conservatives don’t like their candidates but they aren’t jumping ship for socialism and becoming the next Venezuela Link to comment
Landlord Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, OTHusker said: I wasn’t even talking about trump i was talking about Bush’s I know. That was part of what made it so funny and what is revealing the egg on the face of Trump voters who aren't getting anything close to what they hoped. 2 Link to comment
Waldo Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Frott Scost said: Dont you have better things to be doing, Sean Hannity? Says the AOC fanboy 2 1 Link to comment
TheSker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: So no answer on Trump and Russia? Does Mueller have one? Trump's term (1st?) Is more than half way through. Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Landlord said: I know. That was part of what made it so funny and what is revealing the egg on the face of Trump voters who aren't getting anything close to what they hoped. They got little when they went establishment so in desperation they swerved in a very different direction and got same results because all these politicians just want to keep their jobs they are all too terified of the liberal bully press and entertainment industrys influence to put their foot down and make unpopular decisions, it would be political suicide I see no answers Ross Perot was our last legit hope long time ago now Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, Waldo said: Says the AOC fanboy Yup I think shes a good person. What your point? 2 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Please for the love of god, write in paragraph form! 2 2 Link to comment
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