DevoHusker Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said: Voters don't change their minds nor do they vote based on reality Not sure what you mean here. I have voted for Ds and Rs just about evenly, not just in Presidential races, since turning 18 many moons ago. 1 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Not sure what you mean here. I have voted for Ds and Rs just about evenly, not just in Presidential races, since turning 18 many moons ago. From what I can gather it is the polite way of saying that if you do not agree with him/her on how to vote, you are wrong. 3 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said: Voters don't change their minds nor do they vote based on reality. My mom voted all Republican until 2004 and voted for John Kerry, not a great candidate, because she didn't like Bush anymore. And now gradually over time she has started to vote for more and more Democrats. In 2000 she was 53. That said, I don't think many Trump voters in 2020 would change their vote over anything that has happened since. Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: I believe, with mountains of evidence that purchasing power has been eroded over the course of these three years. You choose to not believe that despite mountains of evidence. Purchasing power has eroded since the election of Ronald Reagan more than 40 years ago. Savvy readers will note that the past three years align with an unprecented global pandemic and the global inflation that came with it. Mountains of evidence reveal that Joe Biden's America has emerged considerably better than allies and rivals of all political stripes. IIRC, you recently claimed gas prices were hardship for which Biden should be held accountable. Now that gas prices have declined, I'm sure we can count on your vote. 1 1 2 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Moiraine said: My mom voted all Republican until 2004 and voted for John Kerry, not a great candidate, because she didn't like Bush anymore. And now gradually over time she has started to vote for more and more Democrats. In 2000 she was 53. That said, I don't think many Trump voters in 2020 would change their vote over anything that has happened since. Trump got 74,223,369 votes in 2020 I bet you (a friendly wager) he gets 10% less if he ends up being the R nominee. 2 1 Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, teachercd said: Trump got 74,223,369 votes in 2020 I bet you (a friendly wager) he gets 10% less if he ends up being the R nominee. I'll take the wager. Loser has to have an iowa avatar with a bunch of hearts for a month. 3 Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Lorewarn said: I'll take the wager. Loser has to have an iowa avatar with a bunch of hearts for a month. I feel like that is an avatar that would get the poster banned, right??? Haha 1 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: I don't think you believe this. You clearly know Trump's extremism was blatant and bats#!t the first two times you voted for him, and even in that 2020 loss No one believes this but hardcore non/never Trumpers 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Given the chance to rally around a non-Trump candidate, Republicans have done just the opposite. Agreed 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Donald Trump has actually used the multiple legal cases against him, including straight up treason And Democrats have been happy to have those cases elevate Trump. It’s what they hoped to happen knowing the other candidates would likely beat The Big Guy easily 1 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: IIRC, you recently claimed gas prices were hardship for which Biden should be held accountable. Now that gas prices have declined, I'm sure we can count on your vote. I don’t vote based on gas prices The price of cheese and Kate Spade purses though, that’s another story! 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: I don’t vote based on gas prices The price of cheese and Kate Spade purses though, that’s another story! Wait, you live in the country, right? You should not even be allowed to vote! 1 Link to comment
Decked Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I’m not sure who is worse. The pro trump crowd who makes him their entire personality or the anti-trumpers who do the same. 2 1 Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, Decked said: I’m not sure who is worse. The pro trump crowd who makes him their entire personality or the anti-trumpers who do the same. Every once in a while someone comes along that is awful enough and influential enough that begs anyone decent to actively stand against. And then alongside those folks are a bunch of virtue signaling opportunists desperate to pat themselves on the back. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, Decked said: I’m not sure who is worse. The pro trump crowd who makes him their entire personality or the anti-trumpers who do the same. It really is a crazy thing. People can’t get over him. It’s like they need him in their lives to exist, whether to love him or hate him. Once people understand politicians are just useful idiots for us and know they can/should be discarded when no longer useful, those people will be better off emotionally 1 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: I don’t vote based on gas prices The price of cheese and Kate Spade purses though, that’s another story! You literally used high gas prices at evidence against Biden in a recent post. Please don't make me look it up. Link to comment
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