What is the future of the Republican Party?

[Scarlet]

Just the weekly reminder that if you're not a sycophant to Trump aka MAGA, a movement with zero policy positions outside of fealty to a demagogue, xenophobia, misogyny, tax cuts for oligarchs, grievances and rage politics you're not welcome in the GOP.  There's no reforming this s#!t show.  

 

 

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

So, her job is to funnel all the money to Trump and continue the big lie. 
 

 

[Scarlet]

A foreshadowing of the planned gutting of the civil service as outlined in Project 2025.  Purges...a timeless and predictable act of all autocrats throughout history.  

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

What a f#&%ing idiot. 
 

If I were a Republican, I’d be pissed. But, since I’m not, I can just kick back and watch. 

[TGHusker]

The future of the GOP and the MAGA movement - JD Vance.    Long article quoted in part below

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/15/mr-maga-goes-to-washington-00147054

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But Vance’s new identity as the MAGA militant has existed alongside — and, at times, served to obscure — another influential role that Vance has taken on in Washington. In certain conservative circles, Vance has emerged as the standard-bearer of the “New Right,” a loose movement of young, edgy and elite conservatives trying to take the ideological revolution that began under Trump — including his overt embrace of nationalism, his hard-line stance on immigration, his vocal opposition of U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts like Ukraine and his overt skepticism toward certain liberal democratic principles — in an even more radical direction. Unlike Trump’s more conventional Republican followers, Vance’s New Right cohort see Trump as merely the first step in a broader populist-nationalist revolution that is already reshaping the American right — and, if they get their way, that will soon reshape America as a whole.

 

 

“I feel like I’ve got a really good sense of senators, and he’s by far the smartest and the deepest of any I’ve ever met,” said Tucker Carlson, who backed Vance’s 2022 Senate bid and remains a close political ally.

“He is absolutely going to be one of the leaders — if not the leader — of our movement,” said Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation, the leading conservative think tank in Washington.

“I’m sure he’ll run for the presidency one day,” said Steve Bannon, another Vance ally.

Regardless of whether Vance becomes Trump’s eventual running mate for 2024, he is still likely to wield significant influence in a possible second Trump administration, either as a top ally in the Senate or a Cabinet-level official. And beyond that, who knows? In a not-so-distant future, the question of “Whither J.D. Vance?” could very easily become “Whither America?”

Or as Vance said to me: “Trump will, at most, serve four years in the White House. There is a big question about what comes after him.”

 

At its most basic, this intraconservative revolt is unfolding as a generational schism over Trump, with younger Trump-aligned conservatives like Vance squaring off against older, Trump-skeptical leaders like Mitch McConnell. But Vance and his allies also view the conflict as a deeper philosophical clash between competing definitions of conservatism.

As Vance sees it, the conservatism of McConnell and his allies in Republican leadership represents little more than a watered-down version of liberalism, grounded in free market fundamentalism and foreign policy interventionism. As a result, Vance believes, these conservatives are fundamentally part of what he and other members of the New Right call “the regime” — the interconnected class of liberal elites who populate the upper echelons of American government, business, media, entertainment and academia. Vance and his allies, meanwhile, have positioned themselves as non-liberal reactionaries who stand apart from “the regime.”

Though they call themselves the “New Right,” they in fact view themselves as the defenders of “an older definition of conservatism,” as Russ Vought, the former director of the Office of Management during the Trump administration and a close ally of Vance, told me. This older definition, Vought said, harkens back to the conservative populism of the interwar period, when the far right of the Republican Party supported high tariffs and strict limits on immigration and opposed American involvement in overseas conflicts — including, infamously, the U.S. entrance into World War II.

 

 

[ZRod]

9 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

What a f#&%ing idiot. 
 

If I were a Republican, I’d be pissed. But, since I’m not, I can just kick back and watch. 

Tim, you've got some stuff on your chin...

[commando]

1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

The future of the GOP and the MAGA movement - JD Vance.    Long article quoted in part below

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/15/mr-maga-goes-to-washington-00147054

 

many of us here have been saying for a long time that the real RINOs were the maga people.   now MAGA is admitting it

[BigRedBuster]

The future is here.  

 

 

[Archy1221]

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

The future is here.  

 

 

Suckers.  Reason number 854 for not donating to any political campaign.  Better uses of that money as I’ve said many times. 

[Moiraine]

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

The future is here.  

 

 

I honestly don't understand what the Republicans who didn't put a stop to this when they could were thinking. I mean, maybe fear of revenge was in mind, but there were multiple times they could have easily banded together and prevented that possibility, including by impeaching him in 2021. Let's just say Trump becomes president and then we're a dictatorship by 2028... who in the GOP since 2016 will be better off with that than they would have otherwise been? Maybe like 2-3 people in his inner circle. No one else. So even if Trump wins, the other leaders in the GOP will not win. They had the power to stop this but f#&%ed up at every single turn.

Now let's say he doesn't win. They are going to have s#!t for money for their campaigns because of Trump owning the RNC, from presidential elections all the way downstream. There is no way he is going to do anything that doesn't help him personally, and he's not smart enough to realize some of these lesser elections could help him personally.

[DevoHusker]

I NEVER agree with this guy. But, there is a first time for everything

 

 

 

[DevoHusker]

 

 

[Archy1221]

3 hours ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

They certainly could have worked to solve a few problems along the way.  HR2 was the only semi good major bill I can even think of that they worked on 

[JJ Husker]

1 hour ago, Archy1221 said:

They certainly could have worked to solve a few problems along the way.  HR2 was the only semi good major bill I can even think of that they worked on 

But they don’t have to work on anything or solve any problems because the continued support of their base only requires rage farming. I’d say the problem isn’t the politicians but rather the people that continue to support MAGA. There is no R party separate from MAGA anymore.

[BigRedBuster]

They know they can’t win. So, they are going to try again to destroy our elections after the vote.