Mavric Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Not that I really think it will help but is TJ still going to pay him a visit or is that off? Quote Link to comment
EZ-E Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Not that I really think it will help but is TJ still going to pay him a visit or is that off? On as scheduled. Quote Link to comment
QMany Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Not that I really think it will help but is TJ still going to pay him a visit or is that off? Thought I read earlier that the in-home visit was called off. Quote Link to comment
QMany Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Not that I really think it will help but is TJ still going to pay him a visit or is that off? On as scheduled. Really? I'll take your word over mine. LOL Quote Link to comment
HuskerNationNick Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm sure Da Skers can verify how true this is, but it's been said that they tried to move Cotton to another position, basically creating a new position from what I've gathered, and th new AD didn't sign off on it, and TO did or would have That's the word around the water cooler, maybe da Skers will see this and verify as It may not be completely accurate. No truth. The word was Bo didn't even counter the offer. IIRC, Bo is the one who basically submitted Marrow's application to Kentucky. As soon as he heard Stoops was going to be the HC there, he spoke with Stoops about hiring Marrow. This was done in December (possibly even in November), before the headlines broke loose about Kentucky being interested in Marrow. Quote Link to comment
blessed2bahusker Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Not every kid feels like they have to walk into a school that is full of winning tradition. I actually respect some of these kids. They are the type that believe in themselves, their teammates and their coaches and want to build that winning tradition. If recruiting was as big of a national spectacle back when Devaney was hired people would have been saying the same thing about many of those guys that built NU football. They did it because they believed in something greater than past performance being a guarantee of future results. Plus the kid is going to be with a guy who is like a second father to him. Good luck to McWilson. At least he did it the right way as opposed to a certain other commit that shall remain nameless. Nailed just about everything in this post, especially the bolded sentences. After a few days of irrational hysteria at the thought of getting a recruit stolen by Kentucky, I have come back to the realm of reason, realizing that he probably had his own personal reasons for picking them besides prestige. Good luck to the kid, by all accounts he sounded like a high-character, level-headed individual who would have been a positive representative of the program both on and off the field. Won't be surprised if he has an outstanding career at UK. I think we may trump up 'tradition' more than it may be worth ( I know that sounds like blasphemy). Extending the 'tradition' sales-pitch to recruits, like blessed2bahusker alluded to, Old glory stories make us feel warm and cozy inside as fans but it has decreases in impact as a selling point with each year we don't sustain that level, or very near that level, of winning, making the winning of championships a 'tradition'. Our traditions of prior success is long-gone and we had to start back up from scratch after 2007 to hopefully try to get near that level (it was a ridiculous standard of winning that will likely never be replicated again in CFB and unrealistic to expect). As the years go on recruits will be less and less familiar with our prior status unless they catch the occasional reference on ESPN. My perception is that the tradition and the pageantry that elicits the fuzzy feel-good sentiments for fanbases of CFB powerhouses, is becoming less and less of a selling point for top recruits anyway these days. In this hyper-commecialization era, it seems finding the school which gives you the best chance to make yourself into a bona fide marketable, superstar athlete to eventually land in the NFL has increasingly become one of the biggest priorities for many of the nation's top recruits. I could be completely wrong though, I'm not the one visiting recruits in their living room. Very good post as well. It is hard not to look at everything through our red colored glasses because we don't want to take them off. Its hard to believe that these recruits don't see it that way as well. Don't get me wrong, I bet 90% of them really do value the tradition, winning, hype, fan support, facilities, etc. more than anything else, but there are some kids who just aren't going to make a decision to spend 4 of their best years somewhere based on those things. And the tradition and hype part of that has been fading here. Actually pretty mature when a kid decides to look at the bigger picture. Often that is about relationships and academics. Quote Link to comment
HuskerFowler Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 i never thought of this before but i wonder if us taking DJ Singleton pissed him off. Kind of came out of no where, and he committed and signed with in a few weeks of his vist. Wonder if we told him we were only taking 2 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Do you really think that a new AD that isn't even in the position yet is going to throw a wrench into what the head coach wants to do with his staff? Sorry, not buying it. It sounds like someone around the water cooler wants to be the big talking dude and made up a story. It's not coming from one person, and the water cooler thing is just a saying. It's coming from people in the know that are usually spot on such as da Skers. This has been rumored for the last few off seasons, not much of a surprise, and it's probably mostly fan driven but where there's smoke... It's been rumored for the last few off seasons that Eichorst didn't sign off on Marrow joining the staff full time? As was pointed out above, supposedly Bo was the one that recommended Marrow to Stoops. Quote Link to comment
da skers Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm sure Da Skers can verify how true this is, but it's been said that they tried to move Cotton to another position, basically creating a new position from what I've gathered, and th new AD didn't sign off on it, and TO did or would have That's the word around the water cooler, maybe da Skers will see this and verify as It may not be completely accurate. No truth. The word was Bo didn't even counter the offer. There may be an opportunity as next year approaches to move a guy or two around into RC type positions much like the NCAA used to allow back before things changed in the 90's and it had to be assigned to a coach with on field duties. Look for us to get some excellent sales people in those roles on the road and working the phones. This is actually where ole Pedy made his mark for TO. He was very, very good at that job. I would guess a few marginal coaches that are good recruiters (Bill Busch types) will suddenly be in high demand. I know the everyday fan would like Cotton in a role like that but I don't think it will happen. He's doing to good of a job helping as an extra set of eyes and doing support duties for Bo to go anywhere IMO. I think the NCAA also need to let us have about 2-4 more coaches on the field but the smaller schools will complain about the costs. Thats why they killed the RC staff stuff back in the 90's but its now coming back full circle so who knows. Quote Link to comment
C N Red Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Do you really think that a new AD that isn't even in the position yet is going to throw a wrench into what the head coach wants to do with his staff? Sorry, not buying it. It sounds like someone around the water cooler wants to be the big talking dude and made up a story. It's not coming from one person, and the water cooler thing is just a saying. It's coming from people in the know that are usually spot on such as da Skers. This has been rumored for the last few off seasons, not much of a surprise, and it's probably mostly fan driven but where there's smoke... It's been rumored for the last few off seasons that Eichorst didn't sign off on Marrow joining the staff full time? As was pointed out above, supposedly Bo was the one that recommended Marrow to Stoops. Eic just started Jan 1, he hasn't been here for the last few seasons. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Do you really think that a new AD that isn't even in the position yet is going to throw a wrench into what the head coach wants to do with his staff? Sorry, not buying it. It sounds like someone around the water cooler wants to be the big talking dude and made up a story. It's not coming from one person, and the water cooler thing is just a saying. It's coming from people in the know that are usually spot on such as da Skers. This has been rumored for the last few off seasons, not much of a surprise, and it's probably mostly fan driven but where there's smoke... It's been rumored for the last few off seasons that Eichorst didn't sign off on Marrow joining the staff full time? As was pointed out above, supposedly Bo was the one that recommended Marrow to Stoops. Eic just started Jan 1, he hasn't been here for the last few seasons. Ummm....that's my point. Quote Link to comment
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