Enhance Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Just a guess here, but it's possible that Darlington was able to pick up Riley's offense very quickly in Spring practices. The kid is a coach's son and is known for his understanding of the playbook. Then over the summer and into Fall Camp, Fyfe and Bush were able to get a better understanding and enough reps in the new offense. They were able to close the gap in understanding of the playbook, and were able to pass Darlington with their arm strength and overall athleticism. Did Darlington attempt any deep passes in the spring game? I thought he looked good, but I don't remember the length of his throws. His longest pass was a 29-yarder to Jamal Turner for a touchdown in the 2nd quarter. He was 3-3 on that drive, which was a 79-yard scoring drive. His overall stats were 7-11 for 70 yards and a touchdown. He certainly played well. For all this talk of sample size, I truly do think that it means almost everything in this scenario. I don't think you can even say "nobody is disregarding sample size" because they clearly are. A lot of people appear to have built up an understanding that Darlington was at worst #3 due to one spring game, and at best #2 in some cases. You can throw in all the extraneous variables you want, like his background and possible football acumen. But, the foundation of a lot of arguments appears to be what people expected following his spring game performance, and that's not fair or reasonable. I think The Dude is pretty spot on with his interpretation of this, and I think zoogs makes good points as well. It's pretty clear, at least to me, the narrative around Darlington is almost entirely based upon too much spring game love. Quote Link to comment
I AM FOOT FOOT Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Does it even matter who the 2nd string QB is? I can't wait to see this justification. as long as the 2nd string can make plays it doesn't matter what his name is Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Just a guess here, but it's possible that Darlington was able to pick up Riley's offense very quickly in Spring practices. The kid is a coach's son and is known for his understanding of the playbook. Then over the summer and into Fall Camp, Fyfe and Bush were able to get a better understanding and enough reps in the new offense. They were able to close the gap in understanding of the playbook, and were able to pass Darlington with their arm strength and overall athleticism. Did Darlington attempt any deep passes in the spring game? I thought he looked good, but I don't remember the length of his throws. His longest pass was a 29-yarder to Jamal Turner for a touchdown in the 2nd quarter. He was 3-3 on that drive, which was a 79-yard scoring drive. His overall stats were 7-11 for 70 yards and a touchdown. He certainly played well. For all this talk of sample size, I truly do think that it means almost everything in this scenario. I don't think you can even say "nobody is disregarding sample size" because they clearly are. A lot of people appear to have built up an understanding that Darlington was at worst #3 due to one spring game, and at best #2 in some cases. You can throw in all the extraneous variables you want, like his background and possible football acumen. But, the foundation of a lot of arguments appears to be what people expected following his spring game performance, and that's not fair or reasonable. I think The Dude is pretty spot on with his interpretation of this, and I think zoogs makes good points as well. It's pretty clear, at least to me, the narrative around Darlington is almost entirely based upon too much spring game love. .... and a bunch of reports from the media that watched practice this fall. I would say all of them have Bush #4 now as far as how they've executed their reps in practice\. The reports are Fyfe is getting the most reps so he would be definitely be #2 as far as the coaches are concerned. But they're saying that Darlington is not getting very many reps, but when he does, he's definitely looked better than Bush - though Bush seems to get a few more reps and thus would seem to be #3 - and it's all but indistinguishable between Darlington and Fyfe as far as who's looked better. Again, that's what basically all the media guys have said to some extent based on what they've seen. But I think the consensus of the media is the coaches have TA-Fyfe-Bush-Darlington though it's tough to tell for sure on Bush/Darlington because neither has gotten a lot of reps, at least during the practices/part of practices that the media has gotten to see. Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Not sure Darlington is 100% yet. Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 37. Tommy Armstrong, Nebraska How quickly Armstrong adapts to new coach Mike Riley and coordinator Danny Langsdorf will play a huge role in how high Nebraska climbs in the Big Ten West. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I understand this ranking at this point in time. However, I think by the end of the year he will be viewed as higher than this. Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I understand this ranking at this point in time. However, I think hope and pray by the end of the year he will be viewed as higher than this. I fixed your post. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I understand this ranking at this point in time. However, I think and hope and pray by the end of the year he will be viewed as higher than this. I fixed your post. Fixed it again. I do believe he will be viewed better after this year. But..you are correct...I hope and pray I am right. Quote Link to comment
Hammerhead Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 While we're at it, in case anybody wants a quick reference of where our opponents for the season rank: 4. Connor Cook, Michigan State 9. Christian Hackenberg, Penn State 10. Taysom Hill, BYU 11. Brad Kaaya, Miami 43. Wes Lunt, Illinois 61. Mitch Leidner, Minnesota 63. C.J. Beathard, Iowa 66. Cody Clements, Southern Alabama 76. Clayton Thorson, Northwestern 80. Joel Stave, Wisconsin 88. Hayden Rettig, Rutgers 100. Austin Appleby, Purdue 104. Nick Mullens, Southern Miss So Armstrong is definitely above average among our competition. 1 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I do believe coaches see things in practice -- and in the locker room -- that eludes the average fan and beat reporter. I don't think they thwart better talent very often. Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Christian Hackenberg: 55.8% Completion Percentage 2977 Yards Passing 93 rushing Attempts for -94 yards 12 Touchdowns 15 Interceptions Tommy Armstrong Jr.: 53.3% Completion Percentage 2695 Yards Passing 145 Rushing Attempts for 705 yards 22 Touchdowns 12 Interceptions Both of these players above are entering their Jr. seasons. One players is ranked #9 in the poll, the other is #37. Which one, if you were judging blindly on their college football statistics thus far in their career, would you place above the other? The disparity between the two of these players ranking is ridiculous. The entire poll means jack sh#t. They continually discredit themselves with this love affair for Hackenberg. Now if you're gonna rate college quarterbacks, then rate college quarterbacks. If you're gonna rate fairyland predictions of who you think might be a star in the NFL someday, then label the poll as that. By the way, Hackenberg better step his game up because in my opinion, he wouldn't be too high in the fairyland poll either. 1 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Christian Hackenberg: 55.8% Completion Percentage 2977 Yards Passing 93 rushing Attempts for -94 yards 12 Touchdowns 15 Interceptions Tommy Armstrong Jr.: 53.3% Completion Percentage 2695 Yards Passing 145 Rushing Attempts for 705 yards 22 Touchdowns 12 Interceptions Both of these players above are entering their Jr. seasons. One players is ranked #9 in the poll, the other is #37. Which one, if you were judging blindly on their college football statistics thus far in their career, would you place above the other? The disparity between the two of these players ranking is ridiculous. The entire poll means jack sh#t. They continually discredit themselves with this love affair for Hackenberg. Now if you're gonna rate college quarterbacks, then rate college quarterbacks. If you're gonna rate fairyland predictions of who you think might be a star in the NFL someday, then label the poll as that. By the way, Hackenberg better step his game up because in my opinion, he wouldn't be too high in the fairyland poll either. But, but, but... He's got measurables and... stuff. He LOOKS like an NFL QB... therefore... he must be one. Right? 1 Quote Link to comment
Stumpy1 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Christian Hackenberg: 55.8% Completion Percentage 2977 Yards Passing 93 rushing Attempts for -94 yards 12 Touchdowns 15 Interceptions Tommy Armstrong Jr.: 53.3% Completion Percentage 2695 Yards Passing 145 Rushing Attempts for 705 yards 22 Touchdowns 12 Interceptions Both of these players above are entering their Jr. seasons. One players is ranked #9 in the poll, the other is #37. Which one, if you were judging blindly on their college football statistics thus far in their career, would you place above the other? The disparity between the two of these players ranking is ridiculous. The entire poll means jack sh#t. They continually discredit themselves with this love affair for Hackenberg. Now if you're gonna rate college quarterbacks, then rate college quarterbacks. If you're gonna rate fairyland predictions of who you think might be a star in the NFL someday, then label the poll as that. By the way, Hackenberg better step his game up because in my opinion, he wouldn't be too high in the fairyland poll either. I think they rate Hackenberg higher because of his overall stats from his Fr. & So. years and his potential. He was pretty damn good as a True Freshman. Quote Link to comment
Hammerhead Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Christian Hackenberg: 55.8% Completion Percentage 2977 Yards Passing 93 rushing Attempts for -94 yards 12 Touchdowns 15 Interceptions Tommy Armstrong Jr.: 53.3% Completion Percentage 2695 Yards Passing 145 Rushing Attempts for 705 yards 22 Touchdowns 12 Interceptions Both of these players above are entering their Jr. seasons. One players is ranked #9 in the poll, the other is #37. Which one, if you were judging blindly on their college football statistics thus far in their career, would you place above the other? The disparity between the two of these players ranking is ridiculous. The entire poll means jack sh#t. They continually discredit themselves with this love affair for Hackenberg. Now if you're gonna rate college quarterbacks, then rate college quarterbacks. If you're gonna rate fairyland predictions of who you think might be a star in the NFL someday, then label the poll as that. By the way, Hackenberg better step his game up because in my opinion, he wouldn't be too high in the fairyland poll either. I didn't get into specifics about any of the rankings in my post, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that Hackenberg was WAY overrated. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 While we're at it, in case anybody wants a quick reference of where our opponents for the season rank: 4. Connor Cook, Michigan State 9. Christian Hackenberg, Penn State 10. Taysom Hill, BYU 11. Brad Kaaya, Miami 43. Wes Lunt, Illinois 61. Mitch Leidner, Minnesota 63. C.J. Beathard, Iowa 66. Cody Clements, Southern Alabama 76. Clayton Thorson, Northwestern 80. Joel Stave, Wisconsin 88. Hayden Rettig, Rutgers 100. Austin Appleby, Purdue 104. Nick Mullens, Southern Miss So Armstrong is definitely above average among our competition. Stave is #80??? Wow. If that's the case, I hope he doesn't get hurt before we play him. Quote Link to comment
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