Trump's America

[zoogs]

It's devastating to see how entwined these two facets of conservatism are. Useful for a guy like Trump:

 

1 - Fear, suspicion, and hate of LGBT

2 - Exaltation of the military

 

Chilling, isn't it? The very statement is an explicit exhortation that sacrifices are necessary in order to achieve victory. (Over what?) Priming the public for giving up more in subservience to The Great Fight.

[QMany]

[BIGREDIOWAN]

I was pretty shocked when I read the headline this morning saying he did this. Makes no sense other than to discriminate just to discriminate. I could care less if you're from the LGBT community, you want to serve your country, fantastic, do it honorably and be proud and I appreciate your service. What a poor decision...........

[knapplc]

Trump prefaced his latest bigotry with "After consultation with my generals and military advisors..."

It's a lie. He didn't consult the Pentagon, and if he had, they would have told him that there's a study underway and any decision like this is premature until the study ends.

Pentagon caught off guard by Trump's ban on transgender troops

The Pentagon appeared to be caught off guard by President Donald Trump’s announcement on Wednesday that his administration would block transgender individuals from serving in the U.S. military.

The president’s declaration on Twitter that transgender people would not be allowed to serve “in any capacity” came a year after the Defense Department, under former president Barack Obama, lifted its ban on transgender troops serving openly.

It was not at all clear how the Trump administration intends to carry out such a ban — announced while Defense Secretary Jim Mattis was on vacation — or what it means for the thousands of transgender people already serving in the military.

Facing a barrage of questions, Pentagon spokesmen told reporters to “call the White House” and were not able to offer details. The White House did not respond to requests for comment.

"We will continue to work closely with the White House to address the new guidance provided by the commander-in-chief on transgender individuals serving in the military,” Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis said in a statement.

The new policy will be released “in the near future,” he said.

 

[Danny Bateman]

Of course, Trump has a fall guy. Well, guy(s), "his generals." He's always got a stooge he can blame his missteps on if need be.

 

I find it creepy he feels the need to refer to military commanders using the possessive "my." But that's not really the point.

 

Imagine the shame today for those who are trans and serving, waking up and hearing this news.

There are practical problems, too. What the hell happens to those people? They number in the thousands. Are they all going to be discharged?

[Danny Bateman]

Oh, and in case anyone was mistakenly believing he had a point when he talked about the cost of trans military members:

 

[StPaulHusker]

It is irrelevant to bring up how much they spend on Viagra without the context of why.

[Fru]

Maybe if there was less Viagra, there'd be less sexual assault?

 

"The Veterans Affairs department spent almost $872 million in 2010 to deal with the health impacts of sexual assaults on former military personnel."

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/almost-900-million-for-sexual-assaults-2013-4

[BIGREDIOWAN]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/kristin-beck-transgender-navy-seal-144339198.html

 

Yes, please speak to this individual who's apparently not worthy to serve in today's military Mr. President. I'll grab my bag of popcorn and sit back and watch that conversation!

[StPaulHusker]

Maybe if there was less Viagra, there'd be less sexual assault?

 

"The Veterans Affairs department spent almost $872 million in 2010 to deal with the health impacts of sexual assaults on former military personnel."

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/almost-900-million-for-sexual-assaults-2013-4

Sexual assault isn't predicated on a mans ability to get an erection.

[Fru]

 

Maybe if there was less Viagra, there'd be less sexual assault?

 

"The Veterans Affairs department spent almost $872 million in 2010 to deal with the health impacts of sexual assaults on former military personnel."

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/almost-900-million-for-sexual-assaults-2013-4

Sexual assault isn't predicated on a mans ability to get an erection.

 

 

I'm aware. It was snark.

[Danny Bateman]

How is it irrelevant?

How are boner pills more legitimate than whatever medical issues a trans person serving in the military incurs?

[TGHusker]

 

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/7/26/16034404/trump-lgbtq-rights

President Donald Trump said he would be different — the first Republican president to embrace LGBTQ people. He said the key acronym (“L, G, B, T … Q”) at the 2016 Republican convention. He held up a pride flag at a campaign event. He initially defended the right of Caitlyn Jenner, a transgender woman, to use the bathroom that aligns with her gender identity. He tweeted, “Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs.”

And hey, Trump is from liberal New York — so how anti-LGBTQ can he be, really?

Yet six months into his administration, Trump has repeatedly proven his LGBTQ-friendly attitude was a farce.

[BigRedBuster]

So....now, to be allowed into the military, you have to prove you can get a hard on.

[StPaulHusker]

How is it irrelevant?

 

How are boner pills more legitimate than whatever medical issues a trans person serving in the military incurs?

I said the money spent is irrelevant unless there is context as to why it is being spent.

 

I would guess that the vast majority of it is to assist soldiers coming back from war that have PTSD deal with ED issues. Or possibly from wounds sustained in battle.

 

But the media is making it sound like the US Military is giving away gallons of pills to literally every swinging dick in the Army while completely ignoring other medical issues.

 

Maybe I'm wrong in my assumption. So, again, I would like context as to WHY they money is being spent on Viagra.