Redux Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I think Miley Cyrus nudges out Kanye West on a close Democratic battle. Link to comment
funhusker Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Oprah would be a strong candidate in many ways, except her religious stature would likely hurt her with Dems who hate religious people in general. She's extremely smart and very popular otherwise. But I somewhat have a feeling she would not want the loss of her financial empire. It would be good to have someone of her good, honest, sincere and wholesome character to run on the Dem side - a refreshing and new experience for most Americans who are below the age to have voted for Jimmy Carter. He was a very very good and decent person - the last Dem I can recall who was nationally involved - although he was an awful President. He didn't understand economics and foreign policy was completely beyond him in many ways. A typical scientific mind with little common sense in so many ways. So instead of learning from that experience, we "double-down" on Trump. Thanks! (edit: real estate =/= economics) Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 538 did a thing on this yesterday. Here are the most likely people already planning a 2020 presidential bid: The 7 Signs That Someone Might Be Running For President In 2020 I don't see Kanye on that list. Link to comment
commando Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 538 did a thing on this yesterday. Here are the most likely people already planning a 2020 presidential bid: The 7 Signs That Someone Might Be Running For President In 2020 I don't see Kanye on that list. i don't see trump on there either Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If we could keep those two out of the race, the world would be better off. 3 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hopefully there is a chilling effect on the celebrity/non-politician candidates (at least of the Trump or Kanye variety) when people see the sh*tshow that has been 4 full years of a Trump presidency and exactly how ill-prepared he was for the job. 1 Link to comment
mrandyk Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Who would have thought an egotistical bigot with no experience in public service and an incredibly questionable background in business would be unfit for the job? 5 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Who would have thought an egotistical bigot with no experience in public service and an incredibly questionable background in business would be unfit for the job? 3 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Biden disses Hillary. Separating himself from the 2016 disaster. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/19/biden-disses-clinton-i-never-thought-she-was-a-great-candidate-i-thought-i-was-a-great-candidate/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.ef1e7d49e0e6 Former vice president Joe Biden stirred the Democratic pot a little bit on Thursday night. Appearing at the SALT hedge fund conference in Las Vegas, the possible 2020 presidential candidate weighed in on Hillary Clinton's 2016 candidacy in a way that Clinton supporters sure won't like. “I never thought she was a great candidate,” Biden said, according to reports. “I thought I was a great candidate.” Biden clarified, according to CNN, that “Hillary would have been a really good president.” But that isn't likely to make Clinton supporters feel much better. Biden isn't the first leading Democratic figure with possible designs on 2020 to apparently slight Clinton. Clinton's 2016 primary foe, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), has repeatedly offered some version of this quote: “It wasn't that Donald Trump won the election; it was that the Democratic Party that lost the election.” Those comments have definitely rubbed some Clinton supporters the wrong way, and Biden's are likely to even more so, given how direct they were. Of course, Biden isn't saying anything that most every election analyst hasn't. You can make a pretty objective case that Clinton wasn't a great candidate, given she lost an election she was expected to win to an opponent who became the most unpopular president-elect in modern history. And even Clinton herself has acknowledged her shortcomings in appealing to voters. “I am not a natural politician, in case you haven’t noticed, like my husband or President Obama,” she said at a Democratic debate in March 2016. 2 Link to comment
funhusker Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Biden disses Hillary. Separating himself from the 2016 disaster. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/19/biden-disses-clinton-i-never-thought-she-was-a-great-candidate-i-thought-i-was-a-great-candidate/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.ef1e7d49e0e6 Former vice president Joe Biden stirred the Democratic pot a little bit on Thursday night. Appearing at the SALT hedge fund conference in Las Vegas, the possible 2020 presidential candidate weighed in on Hillary Clinton's 2016 candidacy in a way that Clinton supporters sure won't like. “I never thought she was a great candidate,” Biden said, according to reports. “I thought I was a great candidate.” Biden clarified, according to CNN, that “Hillary would have been a really good president.” But that isn't likely to make Clinton supporters feel much better. Biden isn't the first leading Democratic figure with possible designs on 2020 to apparently slight Clinton. Clinton's 2016 primary foe, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), has repeatedly offered some version of this quote: “It wasn't that Donald Trump won the election; it was that the Democratic Party that lost the election.” Those comments have definitely rubbed some Clinton supporters the wrong way, and Biden's are likely to even more so, given how direct they were. Of course, Biden isn't saying anything that most every election analyst hasn't. You can make a pretty objective case that Clinton wasn't a great candidate, given she lost an election she was expected to win to an opponent who became the most unpopular president-elect in modern history. And even Clinton herself has acknowledged her shortcomings in appealing to voters. “I am not a natural politician, in case you haven’t noticed, like my husband or President Obama,” she said at a Democratic debate in March 2016. If Hillary supporters are given a choice between Trump and Biden, they will give zero craps about his comments yesterday.. Link to comment
RedDenver Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Biden disses Hillary. Separating himself from the 2016 disaster. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/19/biden-disses-clinton-i-never-thought-she-was-a-great-candidate-i-thought-i-was-a-great-candidate/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.ef1e7d49e0e6 Former vice president Joe Biden stirred the Democratic pot a little bit on Thursday night. Appearing at the SALT hedge fund conference in Las Vegas, the possible 2020 presidential candidate weighed in on Hillary Clinton's 2016 candidacy in a way that Clinton supporters sure won't like. “I never thought she was a great candidate,” Biden said, according to reports. “I thought I was a great candidate.” Biden clarified, according to CNN, that “Hillary would have been a really good president.” But that isn't likely to make Clinton supporters feel much better. Biden isn't the first leading Democratic figure with possible designs on 2020 to apparently slight Clinton. Clinton's 2016 primary foe, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), has repeatedly offered some version of this quote: “It wasn't that Donald Trump won the election; it was that the Democratic Party that lost the election.” Those comments have definitely rubbed some Clinton supporters the wrong way, and Biden's are likely to even more so, given how direct they were. Of course, Biden isn't saying anything that most every election analyst hasn't. You can make a pretty objective case that Clinton wasn't a great candidate, given she lost an election she was expected to win to an opponent who became the most unpopular president-elect in modern history. And even Clinton herself has acknowledged her shortcomings in appealing to voters. “I am not a natural politician, in case you haven’t noticed, like my husband or President Obama,” she said at a Democratic debate in March 2016. If Hillary supporters are given a choice between Trump and Biden, they will give zero craps about his comments yesterday.. I think Biden is setting that quote up for running against Sanders or Warren. Hillary is really unpopular, so this is a good way to distance himself from her. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Biden will be old. But only 4 years older than Trump, and healthier (at least going by looks). Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Yea Biden looks good! Not sure Hickenlooper has a very clear path to a serious run but again, I am not sure about that. Link to comment
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