Nebfanatic Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Enhance said: I agree and I would lean towards this being the case as well considering the 'revenge' charge would be considered a misdemeanor, and the 'possession' charge is I think a non-violent felony. I was not able to find and confirm if possession of CP is considered a non-violent felony, though. I think it's non-violent. I would also think they look at the CP charge on a case by case type of basis. There will be punishment of some sort I'm sure, but I would think they would take it easy on Maurice given the circumstances. I say give him enough punishment to know he was in the wrong for this and lets move on with it. 1 Quote Link to comment
onlyHskrfaninIL Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said: If you like this, you should head over to the P&R forum. if its even 1/10th of this, no thanks. i can't handle virtue signaling by the supposed self-righteous. especially when only part of the story is known. its deplorable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, onlyHskrfaninIL said: if its even 1/10th of this, no thanks. i can't handle virtue signaling by the supposed self-righteous. especially when only part of the story is known. its deplorable. 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Moiraine said: I'm guessing many of the people throwing around the label trying to force it to tell the entire story are grown ups who watch 18 year old porn stars. If we're talking about morality, I don't see much of a difference. To the confused face, how is a 35 year old watching videos of an 18 year old stranger having sex less wrong than an 18 year old keeping a video of his ex girlfriend he received at 16 having sex at 15? IMO the age of both is relevant as is their history. 3 Quote Link to comment
zeWilbur Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lonestar_Husker said: I don't need a court to tell me what is or what isn't an assault. That is a significant issue. Men (all people really) do need a court to draw a line in the sand. Without it the entire argument is arbitrary and you cannot effectively enforce any law based on intangible feelings of victimization. 2 Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said: yet you still were off by 5 minutes....i expect better from you C I'm use to that; I hear it from my wife all the time. 2 Quote Link to comment
billdozer15 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Husker03 said: I didn’t have a smartphone but I did have a digital camera, computer, and internet and was willing to put some work in to attain 8.8/10 rating on ratemyrack.com. As I’ve said above, my 18-24 years would have been much worse had I come of age in 2010+. Do you still have the link? 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Moiraine Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, 10_point_buck said: As a parent myself, I agree with your post. It is amazing to read some of the responses. By the tone of many of them, you can pretty much tell who has kids of their own or a sister that they would not want to see in this situation. My God people, a 15 year old girl was sexually assaulted and we are worrying about a man/child who can run the football? I am not going to judge anyone's moral compass, but there are many on this board that need to have their's reset. People are starving in China, and we’re worried about football!? a) Washington didn’t sexually assault her. b) Washington didn’t film her being sexually assaulted. c) It seems fairly obvious that Washington didn’t know the video was of a sexual assault, as the police investigated said assault and didn’t seem to have leaped to that conclusion. Is Washington supposed to understand it was rape better than the police? She never made that accusation until recently and hasn’t pressed charges. The girl says she was sexually assaulted, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with discussing what Washington is guilty of and how it affects his status on the team. At any given time we are all guilty of being more concerned about football than important issues. Since you brought it up, I don’t have a sister but I have a niece and future stepdaughters and a vagina. 2 8 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, 10_point_buck said: As a parent myself, I agree with your post. It is amazing to read some of the responses. By the tone of many of them, you can pretty much tell who has kids of their own or a sister that they would not want to see in this situation. My God people, a 15 year old girl was sexually assaulted and we are worrying about a man/child who can run the football? I am not going to judge anyone's moral compass, but there are many on this board that need to have their's reset. I don't think anyone would like to see their daughter or sister experience what is alleged to have happened with this girl. I think the people who are rushing to judgement may be having a hard time imagining their son or brother being in MoWa's position though. I have a 24 yr old son and a 19 yr old daughter. Unfortunately in today's world these things are a very real issue. As in all things we do the best we can to enlighten them and give them as many tools as possible to deal with it and hope they make the right decisions. But they are still in the real world where this type of thing is commonplace and peer pressure and fitting in are likely more pertinent issues to them. It shocks and saddens me to know what some of these kids do on a daily basis, knowing they have failed to weigh the long term consequences and repercussions. Personally, I am not considering his status as a football player. That isn't influencing my thoughts at all. Honestly I am imagining this happening to HS friends of my daughter or my son or daughter. I feel very bad if in fact the girl was subjected to sexual assault (which we do not know for sure) and I feel bad for her if this came back to her in a revenge porn way. But until a lot more facts come out and it is proven otherwise, I also sympathize with MW and really feel it is wrong to throw about the phrase "child pornography" in relation to this situation. Kids don't magically transform just because they've attained 18 or 19 years of age. It's a travesty all around but I do wish people would hold their judgement, at least until the first facts are in and then maybe further until they actually know the motives and the people involved. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Moiraine said: To the confused face, how is a 35 year old watching videos of an 18 year old stranger having sex less wrong than an 18 year old keeping a video of his ex girlfriend he received at 16 having sex at 15? IMO the age of both is relevant as is their history. It was me because of the first sentence in that post: "I'm guessing many of the people throwing around the label trying to force it to tell the entire story are grown ups who watch 18 year old porn stars." You're usually pretty good about making reasonable arguments but that's just a good old ad hominem. Maybe the eye roll would have been more appropriate. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Moiraine said: To the confused face, how is a 35 year old watching videos of an 18 year old stranger having sex less wrong than an 18 year old keeping a video of his ex girlfriend he received at 16 having sex at 15? IMO the age of both is relevant as is their history. I'm not the confused face, but I would start at the point where the 18 year old stranger is legally choosing to have sex, whereas the 15 year old is/can not. 2 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: I'm not the confused face, but I would start at the point where the 18 year old stranger is legally choosing to have sex, whereas the 15 year old is/can not. So, let me ask this. If an 18 year old is dating a 16 year old and has sex, that is technically statutory rape. Should we kick any player off the team that has done this? Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: So, let me ask this. If an 18 year old is dating a 16 year old and has sex, that is technically statutory rape. Should we kick any player off the team that has done this? it was at this time every college football program closed Quote Link to comment
ScawFraw Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 People relax. Just let this play out before you become judge jury and executioner 4 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: I'm not the confused face, but I would start at the point where the 18 year old stranger is legally choosing to have sex, whereas the 15 year old is/can not. I was specifically talking about morality, not legality. It’s illegal in California for 15 year olds to have sex with each other, but that doesn’t mean it’s morally wrong or more wrong than adults having sex with each other. I’m specifically talking to people saying “child porn child porn child porn” as if there is no moral gray area for an 18 year old viewing video of a 15 year old he dated that he received when he was 16. My brother dated a 15 year old freshman when he was a senior. I didn’t ask but I’m guessing they did illegal things (for him). That doesn’t mean those things were morally wrong because she was a minor and he wasn’t. Both of their ages are relevant. 2 Quote Link to comment
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