knapplc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: And what wonderful inside information do you have to suggest this? The OWH, LJS, and Daily Nebraskan all didn't specify who requested the delay or why. Mo's lawyers did, according to Derek Peterson from Hail Varsity. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: I'm only talking about what he did. The undisputed act of him sending her the video with the intent to get back at her. I don't need a judges ruling on child porn, revenge porn or anything else to tell me that what he did was morally bad. Bad for a teenager, adult, anyone. Does that make sense? He made a crappy life choice and harmed another person with that choice. The legal side is a whole other discussion. So this should just define him for life? Toss him in and label him a sex offender with the other perverts? Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, knapplc said: Mo's lawyers did, according to Derek Petersen from Hail Varsity. I've said this before but from what I know, a lot of times this is for the defending side to get more evidence and to come to an agreement on a plea deal with the prosecutors. Typically the longer these things drag out, the better it is for the defendant. 1 Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Redux said: So this should just define him for life? Toss him in and label him a sex offender with the other perverts? Probably the major sticking point in the plea bargain right there Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, knapplc said: Mo's lawyers did, according to Derek Peterson from Hail Varsity. Maybe Mo's lawyers are still trying to figure out if the video in question is permissable as evidence. Severe and Benning were discussing the issue yesterday, and Severe made the comment that Mo sent the video to the girl twice, and the 2nd time was actually a request from the parents, using their daughter's phone. So, this creates the possibility that the girl deleted the video from her phone, she told her parents about it, and the parents coerced Mo into sending the video again by acting like they were the girl. If the parents used false-pretenses to request and receive the video, the video may not be able to be used as evidence. This is just me guessing, but there are many reasons why Mo's lawyers have requested continuances. I am sure one reason is to keep pushing the trial back until after the season, so it's one less thing for Mo to worry about during the season. 1 Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, RedSavage said: I've said this before but from what I know, a lot of times this is for the defending side to get more evidence and to come to an agreement on a plea deal with the prosecutors. Typically the longer these things drag out, the better it is for the defendant. Well yeah, in this case, he gets another playing season out of it. Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, CapoValley said: Well yeah, in this case, he gets another playing season out of it. I'm not talking about playing, I'm talking about from a legal standpoint. Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Redux said: So this should just define him for life? Toss him in and label him a sex offender with the other perverts? I think whether it defines him for life will be up to him. Not me. If he makes better choices in life and takes advantage of the opportunity he has to better himself, it's likely no one thinks much about this in 15 years or whatever, assuming he's not actually convicted. But for now, he has to wear it. With regards to the other part, I can't say I'm in line with the CA law. I would hate to see that happen to him. Quote Link to comment
Savage Husker Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I thought the continuances is a result of his lawyer here in Lincoln becoming eligible to practice in CA courts? Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 There may be several reasons for the contiunances frankly. There are certainly plenty of factual and legal issues that need to be carefully considered by the defense attorney BEFORE any serious plea discussions are even contemplated. The prosecution has several issues with regard to proving their case beyond a reasonable doubt it would seem. The long discussion on this case by so many without inside information, only the State and or defense attorney(s) may have. I also suspect that the State of CA may not have yet provided full disclosure and discovery of their evidence against Washington yet. For example, do we even know for certain that the prosecution has possession of his phone. Do we know who, if anyone, may be an actual witness to any of the facts. Rules of evidence will vary somewhat from state to state but I am confident that California will have to prove, by some method, that Washington, himself personally, received the electronic message (video) and also that he, personally, sent it. Just suspecting it doesn't prove it and it is unlikely that simply proving it came from the phone number assigned to 'his' phone doesn't prove he is the one who used it. There also was some report that perhaps it was the girl's Mother who actually found the video on her phone and that is what started the mess. In such a case, perhaps the State cannot prove he sent the porn to a minor (if that is any element of the offense). There are certainly issues that must be investigated. At this point we have not seen ANY actual evidence of any crime - only allegations of such. I suspect that Washington has not been presented with the evidence and witnesses against hiim and certainly has not had a chance to investigate or question the veracity of any of it yet. 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 20 hours ago, BlitzFirst said: They can also NOT make a decision. And you have to live with it and accept it. There's no such thing as not making a decision because not doing anything is itself a decision. 6 hours ago, Cornfed said: Ugh. Can we just let this thread die and realize the coaching staff and university will handle it the way they think is best. If you don’t like it you can either deal with it or find a different team. Yeah, I mean who wants to discuss things about the team on a message board. Quote Link to comment
Red Dead Redemption Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 hours ago, CapoValley said: His own lawyers have said he sent/possessed the video. That would be why I think there’s not much left. You've got another think coming 2 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Popped in to check the progress of this thread. Really? People are acting surprised that there are continuances and delays.....in a court case.... in the legal system in the United States? Really? Why it must mean something. I bet it means he's guilty. That's the only possibility in our ultra efficient courts that are always ahead of schedule and that never put off anything. Anyway, carry on. 2 Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: Popped in to check the progress of this thread. Really? People are acting surprised that there are continuances and delays.....in a court case.... in the legal system in the United States? Really? Why it must mean something. I bet it means he's guilty. That's the only possibility in our ultra efficient courts that are always ahead of schedule and that never put off anything. Anyway, carry on. Why are you so mad about this Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, CapoValley said: Why are you so mad about this I can't answer this honestly without getting in trouble with the mods. I'll just say it has everything to do with specific posters and nothing to do with the topic. Quote Link to comment
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