Gage County Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 43 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Iran doesn’t have access to that money and they never will. They can buy humanitarian stuff like food. Then, the international community will pay that bill with the money. It never gets touched by Iran. So, to say they are funding the war with it is wrong. In theory. In real life: FoxNews: Biden Treasury Dept official testifies 'any dollar' Iran gets in aid will fund 'violent' activities Just like Gaza... NYP: Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury — while Gaza’s people suffer 3 3 Link to comment
nic Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/14/middleeast/israel-air-missile-defense-iran-attack-intl-hnk-ml/index.html US helped defend against Iran's attack. I wonder how many "death to America" chats we will hear from folks that live here in the coming days. 3 Link to comment
teachercd Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Why would people in America be saying "death to America"? Link to comment
commando Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 i wonder if we have any fighter "aces" after all that? https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/14/middleeast/israel-air-missile-defense-iran-attack-intl-hnk-ml/index.html US officials said more than 70 drones and three ballistic missiles were intercepted by US Navy ships and military aircraft Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 50 minutes ago, teachercd said: Why would people in America be saying "death to America"? You must have missed the Michigan chants from last week or so 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 10 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: If the U.S. helps escalate the war by attacking Iran, do you honestly think the blowback on Biden will come from the students? Can you think of anyone else who might advocate against U.S. troops engaging in a Middle East war? Just to get this out in front, my post here has nothing to do with US getting involved with personnel. People are telling Israel to let it go with Iran and get over it since no damage occurred. Don’t escalate the situation. What would the response be if the Iron Dome wasn’t so effective and Israel sustained damage from that attack? Would they then have the right to counterattack Iran? it seems that Israel is in a weird situation in that their defenses are so very good that so many folks just expect them to continue to take incoming fire and not be aggressive back because Israel doeant get demolished. 2 1 Link to comment
Decked Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, teachercd said: Why would people in America be saying "death to America"? A death cult religion. 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 15 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: You must have missed the Michigan chants from last week or so I did!!! Link to comment
commando Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 i don't think many of the drones and cruise missiles even reached the iron dome stage of defense. 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 12 hours ago, ZRod said: Iran doesn't have that money, will never get it in a lump sum, and it can't be spent on military items. It must be spent on humanitarian items or the funds will be locked down. Just like the $6B from South Korea, except this time it's money that Iraq owes Iran for electricity. But Murdock and the New York Post said it was true 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: Just to get this out in front, my post here has nothing to do with US getting involved with personnel. People are telling Israel to let it go with Iran and get over it since no damage occurred. Don’t escalate the situation. What would the response be if the Iron Dome wasn’t so effective and Israel sustained damage from that attack? Would they then have the right to counterattack Iran? it seems that Israel is in a weird situation in that their defenses are so very good that so many folks just expect them to continue to take incoming fire and not be aggressive back because Israel doeant get demolished. Everyone is in a weird situation. Nobody wants to see a full proxy war between the allied Middle East and the West, and deep down Iran knows it can't win. Iran's proxies were just attacked and pride dictated a calculated response -- likely with the understanding that the Iron Dome would prevail. It's such a literal and political minefield. Many of the countries that hate Israel also hate Iran, and tribal allegiances divide the Muslim world as they do the U.S. The SOP for terrorism is to get your vastly more powerful adversary to over-react and unite opposition, and escalation would serve Hamas' original motives for October 7. Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 9 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: It's such a literal and political minefield. Many of the countries that hate Israel also hate Iran, and tribal allegiances divide the Muslim world as they do the U.S. The SOP for terrorism is to get your vastly more powerful adversary to over-react and unite opposition, and escalation would serve Hamas' original motives for October 7. Bingo. It's a question of efficacy towards the end goals of actual peace and safety, and how best to navigate through with deft statecraft, not resorting to a, "well they started it and we are just defending ourselves" narrative which, while true, is playing into the hands of escalation that your enemies want. Link to comment
ZRod Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 4 hours ago, Gage County said: In theory. In real life: FoxNews: Biden Treasury Dept official testifies 'any dollar' Iran gets in aid will fund 'violent' activities Just like Gaza... NYP: Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury — while Gaza’s people suffer Why doesn't the Fox article link to any actual quotes or testimony? Because all I can find from not-Fox is that the person was speaking about crypto currency and terrorism last week. Not this Iranian money. 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I'm encouraged by how many middle eastern countries are helping Israel against Iran. 1 Link to comment
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