Cdog923 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, SFW said: I can only remember 4 good skill players in the last 10 years and zero great players. In my 50 years watching NU we’ve only had a few great skill players ever. Osborne knew this and built the program on toughness at the point of attack. Then every 10 years he got a couple of great skill players and bam something wonderful happened. Why Frost doesn’t get this is beyond me. Ameer Abdullah wasn't great? Quote Link to comment
Wunderkind Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: Ameer Abdullah wasn't great? I really like Ameer and he was good, but not great. 1 Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wunderkind said: I really like Ameer and he was good, but not great. He's 2nd in program history for career rushing yards at a place with historically great running backs...that's not great? 8 1 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Decked said: The downfall of the program was not the firing of Frankie..rather it was just a series of bad hires. Tomato tomoto. I agree it wasn't the firing of Frank and it was a series of atrocious hires but I'd refine that a bit to say it was the way and the timing of Frank being fired and that Pederson didn't attempt staff continuity and allowed Callahan to burn it down. 30+ years of championship program building destroyed with two horrendous decisions and one terrible hire. Pelini could've been a stepping stone to better days but then they stepped in it again with Riley. Sorry, that probably isn't very controversial 2 Quote Link to comment
Gorillahawk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, SFW said: I can only remember 4 good skill players in the last 10 years and zero great players. In my 50 years watching NU we’ve only had a few great skill players ever. Osborne knew this and built the program on toughness at the point of attack. Then every 10 years he got a couple of great skill players and bam something wonderful happened. Why Frost doesn’t get this is beyond me. I think most people believe he does get it. He’s recruited some absolute monsters for the offensive line. Big tall long kids that if they dedicate themselves in the weight room will be a solid group. I don’t think the question is wether or not Frost gets it, but if his staff can develop the recruits and get them to reach their potential Quote Link to comment
SFW Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Wunderkind said: I really like Ameer and he was good, but not great. Good for sure... not great fumbled a lot. Great runs basically started 4 years. But overall good. Lawrence Phillips Ahman Green Mike Rozier They were great! 4 hours ago, Wunderkind said: I really like Ameer and he was good, but not great. Agreed 2 Quote Link to comment
SFW Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Gorillahawk said: I think most people believe he does get it. He’s recruited some absolute monsters for the offensive line. Big tall long kids that if they dedicate themselves in the weight room will be a solid group. I don’t think the question is wether or not Frost gets it, but if his staff can develop the recruits and get them to reach their potential Frost doesn’t get that pounding a superior talented team into submission and winning in the fourth quarter is where it’s at. He thinks he can out smart them and talent them. That’s what he doesn’t get. 1 Quote Link to comment
HuskermanMike Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Nebraska needs to run a faster tempo on offense. It has not been as fast as I would have thought by this time. Unpopular opinion: Chinander is going to be a good coach. He has to get with the B1G systems but he will adjust well with more depth and familiarity. The system is ran to score a lot and so we will see teams gain lots of yards. Scoring by opponents will also be down and the linebackers will improve a lot this year. 5 1 Quote Link to comment
Wunderkind Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Cdog923 said: He's 2nd in program history for career rushing yards at a place with historically great running backs...that's not great? I think we have different definitions of great. We've had a number of good running backs, but few great ones. I would agree with SFW on his three over the past 40 years. Nationally, Ameer wasn't in the top tier of running backs during his time here. Not far behind though, probably 2nd tier. Some times the better player doesn't get as many college stats because they leave to the pro's early, injuries, competion at their spot early in their career, or they came from juco for example. Ameer was probably the best RB we've had here in quite a while, but we haven't had a great RB in a long time. We've had a number of good skilled position players, but no great ones over the past 15 years or so. Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I think from the outset Frost hoped the O line was fixable and by plugging in new skill guys he could turn things around quickly on the offense. He under estimated the need for focus and real practice in special teams. He now will dedicate substantial time and energy into kicking and coverage. Frost thinks the defense will be OK with time without major revamping. Controversial or not, this is good news as the diagnosis is accurate so its a matter of getting the right types of players plugged and executing better. Quote Link to comment
Ulty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brandon Reilly was not forced out of bounds. (But it didn't really matter because that whole season sucked anyway.) 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Tackling and overall toughness is the missing ingredient in our defense, not the schemes employed. The Blackshirts are really more like gray at best. This can change quickly with a few key additions to the lineup who lead by example. 4 Quote Link to comment
Hilltop Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Opinionated Nebraska Alumni are not doing the program any favors. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment
huskered17 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 14 hours ago, SFW said: I can only remember 4 good skill players in the last 10 years and zero great players. In my 50 years watching NU we’ve only had a few great skill players ever. Osborne knew this and built the program on toughness at the point of attack. Then every 10 years he got a couple of great skill players and bam something wonderful happened. Why Frost doesn’t get this is beyond me. So let's bring Callahan back to coach our o-line. Supposed to be what he is known for. Throw a boat load of money at him, [again]...... GBR!!! Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Wunderkind said: I really like Ameer and he was good, but not great. 2 hours ago, Wunderkind said: I think we have different definitions of great. We've had a number of good running backs, but few great ones. 7 hours ago, SFW said: Good for sure... not great fumbled a lot. Great runs basically started 4 years. But overall good. Lawrence Phillips Ahman Green Mike Rozier They were great! Peak off season debates always come with a side of trying to qualify superlatives. It's a bit pedantic. And that's the problem with superlatives. They mean too many things to too many different people. At the very least, Ameer is statistically one of the best Nebraska running backs of all time. He's likely a shoe-in for the Nebraska Athletic Hall of Fame. He may not be in the same echelon as LP, Green and Rozier, but few ever will be. 1 Quote Link to comment
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