chamrocck Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I think it is highly likely we are looking for a CEO type coach that will keep Mickey and Busch around. I am not sure if Rhule is that guy. I don’t know what staff he would bring. We may end up with someone like Mullen or Patterson as a program leader that have several years of P5 head coaching experience. Would guys like that be able to bring strong coaches underneath them that are hungry and not afraid to hit the recruiting trail hard. 1 Link to comment
thexyz Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said: If we're going the NFL D-Coordinator route, give me Dan Quinn. Dude is a boss. I’ll pass along the word to Big L. and see what he can do…No promises! Link to comment
cheekygeek Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 hours ago, TGHusker said: So we know MJ can recruit. The balance of the season will tell how well he can motivate, guide, adjust - the coaching aspect. 2 wins against powerhouses Indiana and Rutgers still hasn't given me the confidence that he is our guy. Frost was our guy because he had a 13-0 season - but no P5 HC experience & only 2 years of HC experience. It didn't work very well. If Nebraska can secure Rhule, then you have to go with a proven program builder - which I hope in that case MJ is retained as AHC. Keep in mind that he’s also doing it with an inherited assistant coaching staff. We don’t know who he would replace/ bring-in. Link to comment
cheekygeek Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 46 minutes ago, chamrocck said: I think it is highly likely we are looking for a CEO type coach that will keep Mickey and Busch around. Assuming he COULD keep them around. They will likely be HOT commodities to other P5 programs (in some capacity). 1 Link to comment
Spacer Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I'm still in the belief that we need a HC that is proven to send guys to the NFL... I also believe that the ability to pull top recruiting classes needs to taken into consideration (high draft classes typically lead to top recruiting classes); but I want a HC who can say that he knows what NFL teams are looking for, and knows how to develop and send his guys PRO. Obvi, my top pick is Urban... but, if Mickey can have moderate success this season (2 or 3 more wins), AND pulls a top 25(ish) recruiting class (especially after this debacle of a season), I would be more than on board for making him permanent. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, Spacer said: AND pulls a top 25(ish) recruiting class (especially after this debacle of a season), I would be more than on board for making him permanent. Trev doesn't have the luxury of waiting to see how the recruiting class is ranked to make a judgment on MJ. He needs a coach in place who he knows is a good recruiter & builder well in advance of the early signing date. 1 Link to comment
talaricohusker Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I love listening to MJ. He has a no nonsense approach and he is hard in them if needs be and praise them when they need praised that’s a coach right there and he’s letting the other coach’s coach and do what they need to do and not micromanaging them which is what I think frost was doing 1 Link to comment
Stone Cold Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Trev doesn't have the luxury of waiting to see how the recruiting class is ranked to make a judgment on MJ. He needs a coach in place who he knows is a good recruiter & builder well in advance of the early signing date. This is why i think it wont be mickey, unless they think we can be patient and have another season of mediocre before we can get in mickeys recruits. If Trev and friends are not willing to wait for results or they want to bite on whatever coach they think will work best here. They are going to need to do there damest to provide mickey and friends means to stay. And they should all be well compensated, this is a s#!t show. Link to comment
Cornfed Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stone Cold said: This is why i think it wont be mickey, unless they think we can be patient and have another season of mediocre before we can get in mickeys recruits. If Trev and friends are not willing to wait for results or they want to bite on whatever coach they think will work best here. They are going to need to do there damest to provide mickey and friends means to stay. And they should all be well compensated, this is a s#!t show. It's a matter of getting more out of your recruits though. So far, you could say that Mickey has done so better than Frost did with his own. 2 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 55 minutes ago, Cornfed said: It's a matter of getting more out of your recruits though. So far, you could say that Mickey has done so better than Frost did with his own. Yes - and it was against fellow bottom dwellers - Rutgers and Indiana. But I agree, MJ is an upgrade from Frost. As much as I like MJ and reallllllly hope he's retained on staff, we need someone who can make an immediate difference in recruiting and pulling in transfers who can have an impact next season. 2 Link to comment
huskerpower22 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Yes - and it was against fellow bottom dwellers - Rutgers and Indiana. But I agree, MJ is an upgrade from Frost. As much as I like MJ and reallllllly hope he's retained on staff, we need someone who can make an immediate difference in recruiting and pulling in transfers who can have an impact next season. Is there a possibility we are all glossing over that Mickey doesn't want or expect the main gig and has discussed such with Trev. Maybe he likes being a recruiter and developer and not someone who runs the whole show? 1 Link to comment
Cornfed Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Yes - and it was against fellow bottom dwellers - Rutgers and Indiana. But I agree, MJ is an upgrade from Frost. As much as I like MJ and reallllllly hope he's retained on staff, we need someone who can make an immediate difference in recruiting and pulling in transfers who can have an impact next season. Who's to say that isn't Mickey? He has been our best recruiter by far... I'm not saying that it is, yet...but if he gets the dubs...I don't know why he also couldn't continue to be a superior recruiter. 1 Link to comment
Spacer Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, TGHusker said: Trev doesn't have the luxury of waiting to see how the recruiting class is ranked to make a judgment on MJ. He needs a coach in place who he knows is a good recruiter & builder well in advance of the early signing date. I agree, but one can generally get a sense of how good a recruiting class will end up being by around the end of the season (around the same time period of deciding who the next HC will be). I forgot that open transfer portal makes things weird, as well. Regardless, our class is currently at around 50-40, so this point may end up being moot. Link to comment
Farms Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, huskerpower22 said: Is there a possibility we are all glossing over that Mickey doesn't want or expect the main gig and has discussed such with Trev. Maybe he likes being a recruiter and developer and not someone who runs the whole show? There is nobody on earth that doesn't want a $5-6 million/year pay raise. 1 Link to comment
husker009 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, Cornfed said: Who's to say that isn't Mickey? He has been our best recruiter by far... I'm not saying that it is, yet...but if he gets the dubs...I don't know why he also couldn't continue to be a superior recruiter. He got smacked around at home by the worst Oklahoma team in 24 years. He can rack up some wins, but that abomination of a game needs to be kept in mind. 1 3 Link to comment
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