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I don't typically air other posters' dirty laundry outside of the Shed, but Thurston is now the master of a 30-day suspension to think about what it means when a mod asks to keep political news/commentary out of this thread. Please do not follow in these footsteps.

My wife found some plans on one of our local hospitals website to make masks via sewing. She went to the local fabric store and got the materials needed. She's been working for several days now making these masks for some healthcare workers and my entire police department! These masks can be washed since they're fabric and since they're on the hospitals website I can only assume they work. If we could get thousands of other folks that have this skill to make masks it could help so much and since they're washable they'd cut down on waste too. And I'll add that they can be used as a last resort as a mask themselves or as a cover for the N-95 masks so they can be used longer.

I'd like to think there is no crisis too serious to not make fun of the name D!ck Pound.

Yeah, and the part they insist on missing is where the hundred million sick Americans who don't die will still be getting sick at the same time and grinding the economy to a halt regardless, and when the overwhelmed healthcare system starts killing doctors and piling up bodies like Italy, every other American with a medical condition of any kind -- meaning all of us and our loved ones -- will be vulnerable in a way we've never been before. Also, this is going on worldwide to worldwide economies. The countries who treat this quicker and more seriously will emerge as the economic powerhouse. Also, the part where elitist motherf#&%ers are willing to accept the deaths of the less productive.

@Husker in WI I feel your pain. I’ve done that a few times. I also had this nearly happen with my wife the other day. Ha!

I think first you need to come clean about why you're so intent on claiming this is not a big deal. Everything you're saying seems politically motivated: You keep parroting right-wing takes on this virus. And the governors of both California and New York are Democrats. So there's a very clear political angle you're approaching this from, and yet you won't take your conversation to P&R. That's telling. So here's your latest offering - Nobel Laureate! Stanford Professor! From your article: First point - China cordoned off Wuhan and used the army to force people to stay in their houses. America is not doing that. So bad analogy to start. All his comparisons to China really aren't going to extrapolate here. And here's the right-wing line, AGAIN: And again, nope. "The media" is not a monolith. "The media" is not causing "panic" (this is a right-wing propaganda line). There is no panic in this country. People buying out shelves of toilet paper is not "panic." Please stop posting this nonsense in this thread. It's political and doesn't belong here.

Why is this in the Spielman thread? Gonna give me a heart attack! EDIT: Read the whole title, I'm an idiot.

The day we don't make fun of d!(k Pound, is the day the terrorists win.

this sums it up nicely

This is an example of how the media does their job well. Trump passes off X as a factual statement. X is not true and the media reports that is the case. It's not reporters fault that Trump's only mode is BSing. In times of crisis, words matter. I wish we had a president who could be more precise with their claims instead of trying to sugarcoat everything.

I posted this in the cartoon thread, I believe it fits here too:

Opinion pieces, editorials, personal views of people who work in media, etc., none of this is "reporting". So which is it, the media, or the media reporting? First thing you link doesn't give context. Second thing you link makes a claim with no source or proof or context. Third is an opinion piece, not reporting. Fourth is actual real news and isn't misleading or sensationalized. Fifth isn't 'the media', it's Hillary Clinton's twitter. The sixth is a screenshot of a factually accurate headline, and then a sourced assessment from a qualified expert. Seventh is a columnist's personal twitter thoughts. She's conservative too, funny enough. Eighth is, again, an opinion piece. Ninth is some perspective of satire comedy. Tenth is unclear what if anything it is. Two of the things you linked were "reporting". Neither "made things worse". Most of the other things didn't "make things worse" either. At least if you're gonna be angry at the bad irresponsible media, be non-partisanly angry about it and include some conservative media propaganda and flat out lies too. Try to be even remotely consistent.

It's morally repulsive how corporations are exploiting this crisis. Workers will suffer By Robert Reich www.theguardian.com Sun 22 Mar 2020 09.27 EDTLast modified on Mon 23 Mar 2020 12.03 EDT <snip> In normal times, corporations get special favors from Washington in exchange for generous campaign contributions, and no one bats an eye. Recall the Trump tax cut, which delivered $1.9tn to big corporations and the wealthy. The coronavirus should have altered business as usual. But last week’s Senate Republican relief package, giving airlines $58bn and billions more to other industries, is pure Burring. The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, tried lamely to distinguish it from the notorious bank bailouts of 2008. “We are not talking about a taxpayer-funded cushion for companies that made mistakes. We are talking about loans, which must be repaid, for American employers whom the government itself is temporarily crushing for the sake of public health.” But the airlines are big enough to get their own loans from banks at rock-bottom interest rates. Their planes and landing slots are more than adequate collateral. Why do airlines deserve to be bailed out? Over the last decade they spent 96%of their free cashflow, including billions in tax savings from the Trump tax cut, to buy back shares of their own stock. This boosted executive bonuses and pleased wealthy investors but did nothing to strengthen the airlines for the long term. Meanwhile, the four biggest carriers gained so much market power they jacked up prices on popular routes and slashed services (remember legroom and free bag checks?). LINK ==================================================================================== Good article by Robert Reich. I like the way Reich explains things—although I don't necessarily agree with all of his political views. There is an excellent documentary by Reich on Netflix right now.

Honestly wtf would we ever bail out cruise lines? I understand considering airlines, but no one NEEDS to go on a cruise. It's not a way to get from point A to B. It's a way to relax and party. Give all that $ to independent/local restaurant and their employees/former employees over the next few months.

Let's take a look at this idea that some seem to think they need to believe. So...this isn't as bad as the common flu. Well, as of February 21st, the flu season was 5 months old. It started early October. It had killed 14,000. LINK So, October through February is 151 days. That's 92.7 deaths per day. Yesterday, we had 117 deaths. So far, we've had 100 deaths today (4:21pm central). That number will go up before the day is over. So....let's just say it stays at 100 deaths per day. That means, over 5 months, this disease would kill 15,100 people. But...there is no way it's staying at 100. In fact, like I said, today will be higher by the time it's over. Edit: It already is over 100 at 4:40pm central. Let's look at Spain. They are now going over 400 deaths per day. Over that same time frame, that means 60,400 people would die. Italy? 650+ deaths a day. That works out to 98,000 deaths. Now...all of the countries that are on the list of infected countries have implemented or are in the process of implementing very strict crack downs on society to limit the spread. That includes the heaviest hit countries. So...another thing I would like to hear from some of these Coronavirus truthers. What you do is point to these countries and say....see....it all fades away over time. So...Name one country where the virus has taken off like it has in parts of the US, that didn't do hardly anything to limit the spread....and the virus just sort of fizzled out and didn't do much. Can you name any?

no one says we aren't going to be fine. we are going through some rough times right now but it will run it's course. the question is what are we willing to pay for running that course? masses of people needing critical care at once....or spreading that medical need over time.

Picked up two CBs for N today!

I was away at college so I didn't see it live and I've seen it described as anywhere from 25 to 40. I went big to encourage people to find it.

All are welcome, we have punch and cookies!

Not to and from while in your own car. South Korea did massive numbers of drive-through testing for that very reason. The US is starting to get drive-through testing up and running.

I don’t think you know what “semantics” means. You want to bash news outlets and the people that read/listen to them. You believe their reporting is making the situation worse, you just can’t explain why. News outlets are saying Accurate things about the situation and it makes you uncomfortable. You chose to consume people’s opinions as news, that’s on you.

The media received intelligence about this virus two months ago. The media downplayed its impact for weeks. Stood at a podium and lied for weeks. As the virus spread and State and local leaders realized what they were dealing with, the media proclaimed it a hoax. As the media sat idle and failed to respond to the obvious, those State and local leaders formed their own plans. The media, instead of using its constitutional authority, bumbled and mumbled and delayed. All the while, the media proclaimed their actions were the best, and everything was fine. And now that we're in full blown crisis mode, the media is instead distracted with blaming those same State and local leaders rather than taking decisive action. See? It's all the media's fault.

I was a Republican for more than 2/3 of my life. Volunteered to campaign on behalf of local politicians. I was raised with a strong sense of right & wrong. I know what makes a person good, or why they're not worth my time. Good Nebraska upbringing taught me that. And that's why I stopped being Republican a long time ago. Just couldn't stomach what this party has become. Maybe it's always been this way and I just grew up, or maybe it changed and I didn't. Either way, this is not a party I could support. And I think a lot of people are waking up to this realization. There are going to be a LOT of folks joining the ranks of Independents in the next few months. We just gotta figure out what to do with ourselves. And find some leaders who can represent us on a national stage.

Just wait until we get to the "Trump blames blue state governors for heeding medical advice and slowing down the economy" and "the deaths in New York, California, etc. are due to their poor leadership" phase of this thing.

And our nurses and doctors here at home are being told they can bring in their own PPE, and bandanas if necessary; Governors are saying they are competing against other states and nation's for equipment; But the president wants them to figure it out on their own, saying he's there if they fail. Failure means people die sir. That's pretty f#&%ed up.

This has always bothered me as well...They act like they are digging ditches and need a break from the rough physical labor they are doing. They should be "working" on the weekends right now.

I'm not going to listen to this dumba$$ that's for sure. I'll do what's best for my family and not the economy.......... enjoy your last few months in office mfer!

I really like the part where we're going to bail out the cruiselines who are headquartered in other countries so they can pay lower taxes.

It's so glaringly obvious he doesn't understand the seriousness of the situation.

Well, you've already claimed it will blow over by April 19th: I have a strange feeling you'll suddenly stop coming to the board right around then.

Seems like you've done a lot of research on this, what is your opinion of the R0 of coronavirus and IFR/CFR. Do you think CFR is inflated due to many cases being not tested? Do you think true IFR is closer to the flu? Are you worried about the R0 indicating it could be more contagious than the flu? Interested to why you don't think it will be that big of a deal, do you anticipate a vaccine in the next couple months? Do you think we will find effective treatment plans? Do you think it's so widespread we will develop herd immunity, and the virus will "burn out"? I don't think this virus is the end of times, and I think in the near future we will need another strategy other than mass lockdowns, but this virus will require a massive plan of action over the next year, even if we flatten the curve over the next month.

But...but...but...his Great uncle was a professor at a college.

Ladies and gentlemen, this should go without saying, but please don't take medical tips from Trump.

Yeah, but this is about us, the people, that need cash. Holding this up FOR ANY REASON other than if you are trying to get MORE MONEY for us...is wrong. If anyone is holding it up for the sole reason as a "gotcha" to Trump...they are a$$h@!es. Here is an idea... Citizen Stimulus Bill: Every adult gets 1,500, every child gets 500. No sliding scale for how much you make. If you want to be a true SJW and you don't want your cash because you make a lot...you can opt out. Business Stimulus Bill: Do whatever and fight it out. But stop f#&%ing over the people.

No.....not suggesting we don't do testing. The point is obviously that even if someone goes and gets testing they can still get it after the fact. You might feel that doesn't need to be said. Yet we live in a world where coffee cups have to say that contents inside are hot and a bunch of spring breakers just willingly jumped into a petri dish because YOLO.

McConnell's plans consistently ask for half a trillion dollars of money to be given to corporations at the discretion of Trump stooge Mnuchin, with zero oversight and FOR SOME CRAZY PANTS REASON they want to keep the names of the businesses who got that money secret for six months (and they'll delay release of that info until after the election). McConnell's plan again continually leaves out healthcare protections for American workers. It leaves out coverage for COVID testing for Americans. It leaves out any safeguards for workers in these industry bailouts. So the Democrats, rightly, keep saying no. And then there's this psycho, who is responsible for cutting the funding for pandemic prep out of the 2009 stimulus bill. And now she has the gall to stand on the floor and go on like this. Here's the Democrats' bill. Notice anything different?

Washington State had less positive tests and only 1 death yesterday, those are pretty awesome numbers from a state that was a hotspot early on.

@ActualCornHusker Is this acceptable collateral damage?

... says the member of the Never Trump cult

CBS just said "there has been an 830% increase of cases!" No s#!t.....that's what happens when you have testing.

And asymptomatic Senators, too.

Jesus... I've explained it plenty, so I'm done with the battle of semantics

The way our school is doing it, and how many in the state are, will be basing this semester's grade on just the 3rd quarter. That's great for students who did well for the 3rd quarter, not great for those who didn't. However, we decided for students who work really hard during this online learning, we can bump their grades up. We won't be reducing grades for students who slack off this quarter. This basically follows guidance from the state that this is more an enrichment time rather than typical expectations. We are still teaching our students as close to normal as possible, but it is technically not required that they do the work. The longer they go without finding out it's optional, the better.